Hybridisation of Chromate Ion Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the hybridisation of the chromate ion, exploring its structure and the underlying principles of hybridisation in transition metal compounds. Participants express confusion regarding the hybridisation type and seek clarification on the topic.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the hybridisation of the chromate ion, with references to it being described as sp3 hybridised.
  • One participant suggests that describing transition metal compounds in terms of d3s hybridisation may be more appropriate than sp3, noting the higher energy of p orbitals in highly charged ions like chromium VI.
  • Another participant mentions that d3s hybrids are directed along the diagonals of a cube and discusses the potential for a tetrahedral shape if there is a small substitution of d for p orbitals.
  • A participant questions whether the inner 3s orbital is affected by hybridisation and how hybridisation can occur between orbitals from different shells.
  • Another participant responds that the inner 3s orbital is too low in energy and completely filled to participate in bonding, but notes that hybridising orbitals from different sub-shells is feasible if they are of comparable energy and size.
  • One participant seeks clarification on whether the chromate ion is considered a complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the hybridisation type of the chromate ion, with multiple competing views presented regarding the appropriate hybridisation model.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the energy levels of orbitals involved in hybridisation and the implications of using different hybridisation models for transition metal compounds.

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Can some one explain the structure of chromate ion on the basis of hybridisation cause I'm a bit confused I googled about it and there are posts like explaining it as sp3 hybridised ion. Explain please.
 
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Karan Punjabi said:
Can some one explain the structure of chromate ion on the basis of hybridisation cause I'm a bit confused I googled about it and there are posts like explaining it as sp3 hybridised ion. Explain please.
Guys please help me.
 
If you really want to describe transition metal compounds in terms of hybrids, I would rather go for ##d^3s## than ##sp^3##, as the p orbitals in a highly charged ion like chromium VI are energetically much higher than the d orbitals. The d3s hybrids are directed along the diagonals of a cube. If you allow for a small substitution of d for p, the two directions along the diagonal become unequal and you will get a more tetrahedral shape.
 
DrDu said:
If you really want to describe transition metal compounds in terms of hybrids, I would rather go for ##d^3s## than ##sp^3##, as the p orbitals in a highly charged ion like chromium VI are energetically much higher than the d orbitals. The d3s hybrids are directed along the diagonals of a cube. If you allow for a small substitution of d for p, the two directions along the diagonal become unequal and you will get a more tetrahedral shape.
The inner s orbital ie 3s would be affected by hybridisation or not? And how we are considering hybridisation between 2 orbitals of different shells?
 
The inner 3s orbital is way too low in energy and completely filled. Hence it won't participate in bonding. There is no prinicpal difficulty with hybridizing orbitals of different sub-shells as long as they are of comparable energy and size.
 
DrDu said:
The inner 3s orbital is way too low in energy and completely filled. Hence it won't participate in bonding. There is no prinicpal difficulty with hybridizing orbitals of different sub-shells as long as they are of comparable energy and size.
Got it. One more thing chromate ion is a complex right?
 

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