Hydraulic Entrance Loss Benefits: Fluid Flow 3K US GPM

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The discussion focuses on the entrance loss benefits related to fluid flow transitioning from a smooth surface into a rectangular channel box under induced suction. Participants explore methods to calculate the potential benefits of modifying entrance conditions, such as increasing slot size and changing shape, to improve flow efficiency for a target flow rate of approximately 3,000 US gallons per minute.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the entrance loss benefits and improve flow conditions by at least 12 inches of head.
  • Another participant suggests using a pressure drop formula involving an entrance loss coefficient (K) and provides an initial value of K = 0.32.
  • A participant raises a concern about unit consistency in their calculations, indicating a possible error in their pressure drop result.
  • There is a suggestion to introduce a gravitational constant (gc) to correct unit discrepancies in the pressure drop calculation.
  • One participant proposes that a higher entrance loss coefficient (K = 0.9) may be more appropriate for the scenario.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of hydraulic diameter and provides a formula for its calculation, noting that the aspect ratio should ideally be greater than 0.25 for accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate entrance loss coefficient and the accuracy of calculations, indicating that multiple competing models and approaches are being discussed without consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding unit conversions and the implications of using different values for the entrance loss coefficient. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific geometric parameters, such as aspect ratio, which may affect the calculations.

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I am trying to determine the entrance loss benefits of changing the entrance conditions from water run-off (gravity flow) from a smooth (steel plate) surface into a rectangular channel box that is under induced suction. Currently, I believe that I am restricting water removal-flow through a rectangular, slotted entrance but am not sure how to calculate the potential benefits of increasing slot size, changing shape, etc. Attempting to remove approximately 3,000 US gallons per minute through a slot of 2.75-inches x 48-inches. I need to improve loss conditions by minimum of 12-inches of head in order to gain an appreciable benefit. HELP PLEASE!
 
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Let me get back to you tomorrow. I have some good reference material at work that should help us solve this problem.
 
OK, looked into this - here is an approximate method.

The pressure drop across your rectangular entrance is the usual form:

DP = K * rho * vel ^2 / 2

DP = pressure drop
rho = density
vel = velocity = volumetric flow / cross sectional area

For now, use an entrance loss coefficient value of K = 0.32 for your channel.

Now, your velocity will decrease as you increase the height or width (height is better) of the rectangular entrance. This will decrease your velocity and pressure drop.

Determine your new entrance dimensions to reduce the pressure drop to the number you need.

Typed in a hurry - let me know if you have any questions.
 
Units? When I use units for rho=lbs/ft^3 (water = 62.48), and vel=ft/sec (mine = 7.3), I calculated a DP of 532. I'm not sure what my units are, but 532 sounds like I may be off by a factor of at least 100.
 
By the way edgepflow, I really appreciate your help!
 
mcampbell615 said:
Units? When I use units for rho=lbs/ft^3 (water = 62.48), and vel=ft/sec (mine = 7.3), I calculated a DP of 532. I'm not sure what my units are, but 532 sounds like I may be off by a factor of at least 100.

You can make the units work by introducing the gc factor:

DP = K * rho * vel ^2 / ( 2 * gc )

where,

gc = 32.2 lbm-ft / (lbf-sec^2)

Multiply out your units or you can use MathCAD, programmable calculator, or some other digital package if you have access to it.
 
I also figured a K = 0.9 is a better number.
 
Some additional improvement in the calculation may be obtained by using the "hydraulic diameter" of the rectangular opening:

Dh = 2bh / (b+h) = 2h / (1 + AR)

where,

h = height of rectangular channel = 2.75 in.
b = width = 48 in

AR = aspect ration = height / width = 2.75 / 48 in = 0.057

Usually, the AR should be > 0.25, so there is some error here.

As you can see, as b and AR -> infinity, then Dh -> 2h. So it is best to increase height only to lower pressure drop. You could use Dh in your velocity calculation for better accuracy.
 

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