Reducing Water Velocity Without Reducing Flow: Finding the Right Valve

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of reducing the velocity of water exiting a 2-inch orifice from a 4-inch pipe while maintaining a flow rate of 50L/s at a head of 100m. Participants explore potential solutions and considerations related to the energy of the flow and the resulting spray.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a valve that can reduce the energy of the water while maintaining the same flow rate, expressing concerns about the spray created by the high-velocity flow.
  • Another participant suggests that if the primary concern is the spray, deflecting or diffusing the water might be a viable alternative.
  • A different participant argues that adding any valve will inherently reduce the flow rate due to the additional restriction it introduces.
  • One participant questions the placement of the orifice, suggesting that relocating it further upstream or extending the pipe could mitigate the issues without affecting flow rate.
  • Another participant posits that maintaining the same head and flow rate will likely result in the same exit velocity, implying a limitation in achieving the desired outcome.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to address the problem, with no consensus on a specific solution. Some suggest alternative methods to manage the spray, while others focus on the implications of adding valves or changing the orifice location.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of maintaining the same head and flow rate on exit velocity, nor have they reached a conclusion on the effectiveness of proposed solutions.

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Hi all,

Need a bit of help with a problem. I have a 4 inch pipe (carrying water). On the end of this 4 inch pipe is a 2" orifice. Now flowing through this orifice is water at 50L/s at a head of 100m (790 GPM and 330 feet).

Basically as you can imagine, there is a lot of energy behind this flow. Some of the issues behind this is the high energy flow and the spray of the release. It is impossible to walk past without getting wet.

So I am looking for a type valve that will reduce the 'energy' of the water. I need to maintain the flow rate of 50L/s. Ideally I need the water to be released at a lower velocity but the same flow rate at the same head. What are my options? From what I understand, a pressure reducing valve will slow down the fluid but also reduce the flow.
 
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If it only is the spray that you want to reduce then why not just deflect or diffuse it?
 
Adding a valve of any kind will reduce flow rate. It's just another restriction.

The orifice is in the wrong location. Put it further upstream and have the 4" pipe continue down to the outlet, or add some additional pipe on the orifice outlet.
 
What are you using the water for?
If you keep the same head and flow rate I think that you're stuck with the same velocity.
 

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