I am confuse in finding Argumnet of Complex Number

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The discussion revolves around finding the argument of complex numbers and understanding their representation in different quadrants. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the angles associated with complex numbers in various quadrants, particularly in relation to the inverse tangent function and adjustments needed for angles in the second, third, and fourth quadrants.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between reference angles and actual angles in different quadrants, questioning how to adjust angles derived from the inverse tangent function. There is a focus on understanding when to add or subtract 180 degrees based on the quadrant of the complex number.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to determine the correct angle for complex numbers in the second and third quadrants, while the original poster seeks further clarification on the fourth quadrant and the general approach for logarithms of complex numbers and their polar forms. Multiple interpretations of angle adjustments are being explored.

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The discussion includes references to the inverse tangent function's range and how it affects angle calculations in different quadrants. There is an emphasis on understanding the distinction between reference angles and the actual angles measured from the positive real axis.

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hi PF

1. (2+2i) First Quadrant
2. (-2+2i) Second Quadrant
3. (-2-2i) Third Quadrant
4. (2-2i) Fourth Quadrant

consider (2+1i) then Tan^-1(2/2) which will be 45 degree
if we consider (-2+2i) then it will be -45 degree but angle will not -45 degree actually we get answer by adding or deducting 180 or some like this i want to know what we have to add or subtract i am confuse about this

also what to do for third and fourth quadrants

i want to know this for Log of complex number and Polar form
Please help me
Thanks in advance :)
 
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urduworld said:
hi PF

1. (2+2i) First Quadrant
2. (-2+2i) Second Quadrant
3. (-2-2i) Third Quadrant
4. (2-2i) Fourth Quadrant

consider (2+1i) then Tan^-1(2/2) which will be 45 degree
if we consider (-2+2i) then it will be -45 degree but angle will not -45 degree actually we get answer by adding or deducting 180 or some like this i want to know what we have to add or subtract i am confuse about this
You seem to be confused between the reference angle and the angle as measured from the positive real axis. For 2 + 2i, the reference angle and the angle itself are both 45 degrees, or pi/4. For -2 + 2i, the reference angle is also 45 degrees (not -45 degrees), but since the angle is in the second quadrant, the actual angle is 180 - 45 = 135 degrees, or 3pi/4. If you calculate the angle using the inverse tangent function, you have t-1(-2/2) = -45 degrees. You have to add 180 degrees to this, because your angle is in the 2nd quadrant, so you get 180 + (-45) = 135 degrees again.

The range of the inverse tangent function is (-90, 90) (in degrees), or (-pi/2, pi/2), so if your angle is not in the 1st or 4th quadrants you have to adjust the value to get the angle you need.

If your angle is in the third quadrant, as it is for -2 - 2i, you'll have tan-1(-2/(-2)) = 45 degrees. The actual angle is 180 + 45 = 225 degrees, or 5pi/4.
urduworld said:
also what to do for third and fourth quadrants

i want to know this for Log of complex number and Polar form
Please help me
Thanks in advance :)
 
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this means i have to add 180 in all the condition except if it is in first
 
I didn't talk about a fourth quadrant angle, but maybe you can figure out what you need to do. If z = 2 - 2i, the argument would be -45 degrees. As a positive angle, what would it be?
 

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