I cannot figure out what I saw in this picture, help me

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The discussion revolves around an observation of strange lights in the sky seen by a participant in Monterrey, Mexico. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding the nature of these lights, including potential atmospheric phenomena, reflections, and other explanations. The conversation includes technical reasoning and speculative ideas about the source of the lights.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the lights may be a result of diffraction or refraction of light, similar to light pillars.
  • Another participant inquires about the behavior of the lights, asking if they moved or changed in intensity.
  • A participant proposes that the lights could be reflections from ceiling lamps, questioning the presence of any glass between the observer and the lights.
  • Some participants speculate that the lights might be multiple reflections caused by temperature layers in the air.
  • There are suggestions to investigate the lights further by linking to higher resolution images and examining the lights on the ground that appear to correlate with the lights in the sky.
  • One participant recalls a similar experience involving Google balloons, suggesting that the lights may fade as the sun sets.
  • Another participant raises the possibility that the lights could be military flares.
  • Some participants discuss the potential for the lights to be hot-air paper sky lanterns, explaining their behavior and duration of visibility.
  • A later reply questions the authenticity of the observation, suggesting it could be reflections from interior lighting.

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Participants express a range of competing views regarding the nature of the lights, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Some hypotheses are supported by multiple participants, while others are challenged or refined throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of visual confirmation and the limitations of photographic evidence in determining the nature of the lights. There are unresolved questions about the conditions under which the lights were observed and the potential influence of environmental factors.

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Hi everyone, 2 days ago at 10am in Monterrey Mexico i looked at the sky and saw this strange lights, and i want to know what are they. Can some astronomer help me figure out what are they? Note: These things are not product of the lens of the camera, i saw them with my own eyes. My deduction is that they are some diffraction or refraction of light and they focus in singular points, just like light pillars.
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How did they behave? Were they moving? Did they change in intensity or blink or anything?
 
No, they were just stationary. They disappeared like 10 min after staying there.
 
Light from some ceiling lamps? Is that glass between you and the outside?
 
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guywithdoubts said:
Light from some ceiling lamps? Is that glass between you and the outside?

there's no glass, there no medium between me and the lights
 
To me it looks like a multiple reflection as there are at least two, eventually three more or less identical constellations. Maybe some (temperature) layers in the air reflected the lights from those on the mountain or from somewhere else.
 
Can you link us to a full resolution version of the photo?
 
russ_watters said:
Can you link us to a full resolution version of the photo?
here it is https://pixady.com/image/toi
 
russ_watters said:
Can you link us to a full resolution version of the photo?
Here is another link http://extrazoom.com/image-87023.html
 
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As well as the apparent lights in the sky, there are bright objects on the mountain in a roughly similar pattern.
Do you know what those lights on the ground are?, could they be related?
 
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rootone said:
As well as the apparent lights in the sky, there are bright objects on the mountain in a roughly similar pattern.
Do you know what those lights on the ground are?, could they be related?

They are more lights, but there is an illusion that they are in the mountain, but they are not on ground.
 
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Did they fade after dark? We saw something similar in New Zealand last year, it turned out to be Google balloons, they had launched 8 of them from south of us. What was amazing was that they stayed in formation and looked stationary. They faded as the sun went down which gave us the clue.

Cheers
 
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Is there a military base nearby? They look like flares.
 
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I say flares or your camera, do you have other photos?
 
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Did they have the same color tone as sunlight? Could you get someone to walk to the far side of the overpass (rt40) and hold up a mirror? See if reflected sunlight looks the same. Try again on the far side of the river (also rt40?). Use cell phones so that (s)he knows if you got the photo. Might be worth trying with both a small hand held mirror, a large mirror, and something like a mylar balloon or aluminum foil.

It looks like a bright triangle is sticking out of the left side of the mountain. On my laptop screen that washes out to the same whiteness as the points.

If you force the camera to focus on bright objects your picture darkens. Making it focus on bright objects like a cloud will create dimmer photos. On manual cameras you can adjust the aperture.
 
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It was likely a flight of those hot-air paper sky-lantern-balloon things, or something similar. That would explain why they faded after 10 mins- parafin fuel runs out, flame dies, balloon falls back to earth. Those things will only fly to a certain altitude, til they reach buoyant equilibrium, then fly no higher, til their flame goes out.
 
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Armando Valle said:
My deduction is that they are some diffraction or refraction of light...
Maybe so ?... here's a guess ... and here ... and here .
 
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Kenneth DeMaio said:
I say flares or your camera, do you have other photos?

he said he could see them visually without the camera ... he had already discounted lens flare etc
 
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Is that the same lights on the right side of the picture? This photo was taken inside atrium club empresarial, monterrey mexico. I suspect guywithdoubts may be on to something.
 
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stefan r said:
This photo was taken inside atrium club empresarial, monterrey mexico.
Another one... ?
 
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Same one, but Google+ ... left click in photo you can zoom with mouse wheel.
Left click to drag it around.
 
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OCR said:

This entire thing is just the reflection of interior lighting off of glass. You can see the same 2 patterns of lights in the OP's images and the ones OCR linked. There's a 5-light pattern that appears numerous times from ceiling lighting, and then there's a faint pattern of small streaks that run just above the peak of the mountain.

I don't know if the OP was intentionally hoaxing us or not, but this thread is done.

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