I can't remember combustion analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of combustion analysis for determining the empirical formula of a carbon-hydrogen-oxygen compound based on the masses of combustion products CO2 and H2O. Participants are exploring the calculations involved in deriving the empirical formula from the given data.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents initial calculations for moles of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen but expresses confusion about the results not matching expected options.
  • Another participant suggests checking the moles of hydrogen and emphasizes the need to account for the oxygen from both the compound and the air.
  • A subsequent post provides revised calculations for moles of carbon and hydrogen, and introduces a method for calculating the mass of oxygen in the sample, leading to a proposed empirical formula of C3H6O.
  • A final post indicates acknowledgment of progress but does not elaborate further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows some agreement on the need to correct calculations, particularly regarding the moles of hydrogen and the method for finding oxygen. However, there is no consensus on the final empirical formula, as participants are still refining their calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the contributions of oxygen from the air versus the compound itself, and there are unresolved steps in the calculations leading to the empirical formula.

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63.8 mg of a C - H - O compound produces 145.0 mg of CO2 and 59.38 mg of H2O. Find empirical formula.

I THOUGHT that I simply had to find the moles of each compound as a ratio, but in doing that I get an answer that isn't an option.

I calculate moles C as (12/44)(.145) = .0395 grams carbon = .00329 moles carbon
Moles O as .10546 grams + .052 grams = .0097 moles oxygen
Moles H as .00329 moles H

Or CO3H...

What am I doing wrong here? I can't remember this crap.
 
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Combustion products contain oxygen both from the compound and from the air.

Check hydrogen moles, you look for H, not for H2.

Check what is the mass of 0.00329 moles C, corrected moles of H and 0.0097 moles of O. Compare with the sample mass. Can you think about a way of finding amount of oxygen in the sample?
 
Hows this look?

.145 g CO2 = .003295 Moles C = .0395 g
.05938 g H2O = .00659 Moles H = .0065 g

Grams oxygen = .0638 - .0395 - .0065 = .0178 g = .00106 moles oxygen

= C3H6O
 
OK now.
 

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