I can't seem to keep my Paraffin wax in liquid form

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of creating a lubrication mixture using paraffin wax, paraffin oil, and xylene. Participants explore the formulation and properties of the mixture, including the behavior of the wax as it cools and the effectiveness of different solvents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a mixture of 1/3 melted paraffin wax, 1/3 paraffin oil, and 1/3 xylene, noting that it turns into a soft paste upon cooling.
  • Another participant suggests that the amount of wax is too high for the amount of solvent used, referencing a patent that indicates a maximum solubility of paraffin in xylene at a specific temperature.
  • A participant inquires whether the base oil should also be kept at 7.8 grams and considers using hexane instead of xylene.
  • It is proposed that hexane may work better than xylene, with cyclohexane suggested as an even better option, while noting the need for heating to achieve proper dissolution.
  • One participant explains the intended use of the lubrication for chains, emphasizing the need for the wax to coat effectively without becoming crumbly.
  • Another participant suggests that low ambient temperature may be causing the wax to solidify too quickly and recommends warming the mixture before use.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology of "paraffin oil," with some participants asserting that it is a misnomer for kerosene, while others provide links to clarify its usage.
  • A suggestion is made to reduce the amount of oil used and consider using a resin for better adhesion, along with a recommendation for microcrystalline wax.

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Participants express differing opinions on the formulation and terminology, with no consensus reached regarding the optimal mixture or the definition of "paraffin oil." The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the best approach.

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Participants highlight the importance of temperature in the dissolution process and the potential limitations of the current formulation, but no specific mathematical or experimental steps are resolved.

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Paraffin lubrication problems.
Hello everyone, I'm trying to make lubrication out of paraffin, this is what I am doing, 1/3 melted paraffin wax, 1/3 paraffin oil, and 1/3 xylene. After melting the wax I add the oil, I then add the oil, mix it well to the correct consistency, I then transfer it to a glass container where I add the xylene. The problem is once it cools it turns to a soft paste. What am I doing incorrectly? The idea was the xylene was the carrying agent that would evaporate quickly and leave the wax lube behind.
 
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You have way to much wax for that amount of solvent.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4925497.html

This paper patent indicates 7.8 grams at 38C maximum solubility of paraffin in 100g xylene.

BoB

Edit: It is a patent not a paper.
 
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Thank you Bob, should I keep the base oil at 7.8 grams also? What I want is the xylene to evaporate and keep the wax behind. I have hexane also, could I use this instead of xylene?
 
Hexane will work a little bit better per the linked document. Cyclohexane is way better.

Both the solid and liquid forms are paraffins so I doubt you will get 7.8g of each to dissolve. Please note that dissolving that amount requires it to be heated to 38C.

What are you attempting to lubricate?

BoB
 
I am will be lubricating chains, the wax is good as a water and dirt repellent, and the lubrication is very good.
The idea was to melt the wax add the base oil to make the paraffin wax not too crumbly when it drys on the chain. The hexane was just a carrying agent which evaporates quickly once applied.

Do you think i should just melt the wax and add the hexane? The wax i am using has a very low oil content.
So by adding the base oil, which i would use paraffin oil it would loosen the wax and would coat the chain bett
er.

Thanks again

Dene
 
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Summary: Paraffin lubrication problems.

Hello everyone, I'm trying to make lubrication out of paraffin, this is what I am doing, 1/3 melted paraffin wax, 1/3 paraffin oil, and 1/3 xylene. After melting the wax I add the oil, I then add the oil, mix it well to the correct consistency, I then transfer it to a glass container where I add the xylene. The problem is once it cools it turns to a soft paste. What am I doing incorrectly? The idea was the xylene was the carrying agent that would evaporate quickly and leave the wax lube behind.
The described process resembles how paste-waxes are made.
 
I think your ambient temperature is low and that solidifies the wax .. try dipping in hot water before use
 
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Dene said:
TL;DR Summary: Paraffin lubrication problems.

Hello everyone, I'm trying to make lubrication out of paraffin, this is what I am doing, 1/3 melted paraffin wax, 1/3 paraffin oil, and 1/3 xylene. After melting the wax I add the oil, I then add the oil, mix it well to the correct consistency, I then transfer it to a glass container where I add the xylene. The problem is once it cools it turns to a soft paste. What am I doing incorrectly? The idea was the xylene was the carrying agent that would evaporate quickly and leave the wax lube behind.

There is really no such thing as "paraffin oil." "Paraffin" is simply British usage for kerosene. As lamp oil or jet fuel. Now widely adopted in the US lamp oil business where it means deodorized kerosene.
 
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That sounds like a LOT of oil! I would greatly reduce the amount of oil if I used it at all. A resin as is used in hot melt adhesives would be a better admixture in my opinion. And be sure to use a microcrystalline wax. It sticks better and won’t flake off as much.

I think we’re necroposting again!
 
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