I have a question about building a tensile tester

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The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a tensile testing machine, focusing on material selection, load capacity, and structural stability. Participants explore various aspects of building a machine suitable for lighter loads compared to commercial models, addressing both theoretical and practical considerations.

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  • One participant suggests starting with extrusions for the upper body and asks for detailed material recommendations to ensure stability.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of determining the maximum load to be applied and analyzing the structure to avoid plastic deformation or failure.
  • There is a reiteration of the need to specify maximum load before making material choices, with one participant humorously noting that even plastic spoons could suffice for low loads.
  • Several participants discuss the implications of load capacity on material selection, with one mentioning the need to match strength across all components to avoid undersizing or oversizing.
  • One participant shares their experience of building a tensile tester using a hydraulic press and load cell, indicating that the maximum load is determined by the hydraulic system's capabilities.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost-effectiveness of custom building a tensile tester compared to purchasing an off-the-shelf hydraulic press.

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Participants generally agree on the necessity of defining maximum load as a critical parameter before selecting materials. However, there are differing opinions on the practicality of building versus buying a tensile testing machine, and no consensus is reached on specific material choices or design approaches.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific load ranges and material properties needed for the tensile tester, highlighting the dependence on the intended application and load capacity.

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For the sake of knowledge, I'd like to ask few questions.

Although not now, I'm thinking of building my own cheap tensile testing machine that isn't used for testing on ones with such heavy loads like commercial machine.

1. For the uper body, I'm just planning to start by connecting with extrusions but when buliding the machines, what materials should each parts be made out of to keep the machine stable? Could I get detailed information of why such materials should be chosen?

2. Any other things I need to consider when approaching such project?
 
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Decide what maximum load you wish to be able to apply, then analyze the structure subject to that load. It must not deform plastically, and it must not fail (fracture). You will also probably want to limit the deflection, so decide what you will allow and check that also.
 
Dr.D said:
Decide what maximum load you wish to be able to apply, then analyze the structure subject to that load. It must not deform plastically, and it must not fail (fracture). You will also probably want to limit the deflection, so decide what you will allow and check that also.
what about material? Aluminum, steel...etc?
 
It is not possible to make a choice of materials until you specify a max load and begin to analyze. If the max load is small enough, plastic spoons might provide sufficient strength. If the max load is extremely high, you may have to really scratch to find a material that will work. The max load is an essential parameter.

Most testing machines are rated in terms of their max load. Thus a particular machine might be rated at 2 million pounds, indicating that the frame and the power system are adequate to apply that load.

Why would you want to begin with a material selection up front?
 
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what range of loads? I built one using an inexpensive hydraulic press and a load cell.
 
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what range of loads? I built one using an inexpensive hydraulic press and a load cell.

That would indicate that the maximum load for RogueOne's tester is whatever the hydraulics can deliver, unless of course the load cell is crushed or the frame collapses. The whole idea of design is to match strength in all the components, so that no part is undersized and no part is radically oversized and too expensive.
 
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That would indicate that the maximum load for RogueOne's tester is whatever the hydraulics can deliver, unless of course the load cell is crushed or the frame collapses. The whole idea of design is to match strength in all the components, so that no part is undersized and no part is radically oversized and too expensive.

Its also important to know min/max loads so that you can correctly size your load cell and hydraulic jack. Assuming the load cell data would be digitized, you want the min/max load cell voltage to fit as closely to the ADC's min/max voltage input range as you can make it.

I don't think that the frame's size is going to be the only major factor in cost for a project like this. Whether or not you can get something off-the-shelf that will suffice for a load frame will be a major factor as well.

You can get a hydraulic press from harbor freight for $100. If your component's maximum load is far less than the cheapest hydraulic press' load frame's maximum load, would it actually be cheaper to build a smaller hydraulic press? My guess is that it would not be cheaper to custom build one.
 

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