I haven't taken any math class in over 10 year

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a participant who has not taken any math classes in over a decade and is considering enrolling in a university physics course that is math-intensive. The participant is concerned about their lack of experience in trigonometry and calculus and seeks advice on whether they can succeed in the class while managing self-study in mathematics.

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  • The original poster expresses concern about their ability to keep up in a math-heavy physics course due to a long absence from math education.
  • Some participants recommend taking necessary mathematics courses before attempting the physics class, suggesting that even with the proper math background, significant effort will still be required.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of prerequisites and suggests that without them, the original poster may struggle significantly in the course.
  • Another participant advises dropping the course if the prerequisites are not met, citing the challenges faced by students who lack the foundational knowledge assumed by the course.

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Participants generally agree that having the necessary math prerequisites is crucial for success in the physics course. However, there is disagreement on whether the original poster should attempt the class or drop it, with some advocating for caution and others suggesting that it may be possible to manage with hard work.

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Participants express varying levels of concern regarding the original poster's preparedness for the course, highlighting the importance of foundational knowledge in mathematics for success in physics. There is an acknowledgment of the potential difficulties that may arise without this background.

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I have signed up for a bunch of science classes this semester. One of which is university physics. It is math heavy and geared toward the math/engineering/science major folks.

The problem:
I haven't taken any math class in over 10 years, and I have no trig or calc experience.

Will this class kill me or will I be OK if I work my rear off. I already spoke with the prof and she told me that I would need to teach myself calc along with the class and that it will be a rough go.

Am I just high on my horse, or should I be able to hang with kids right out of college? I should state that I have my undergrad in elementary education, but with virtually no emphasis on math or science.

Thanks in advance for the responses.

ETA: My reason for taking these classes at this time is to pick up my middle school science endorsement. I be endorsed in math and social studies with the classes I have already taken.
 
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cordes said:
I have signed up for a bunch of science classes this semester. One of which is university physics. It is math heavy and geared toward the math/engineering/science major folks.

The problem:
I haven't taken any math class in over 10 years, and I have no trig or calc experience.

Will this class kill me or will I be OK if I work my rear off. I already spoke with the prof and she told me that I would need to teach myself calc along with the class and that it will be a rough go.

Am I just high on my horse, or should I be able to hang with kids right out of college? I should state that I have my undergrad in elementary education, but with virtually no emphasis on math or science.

Thanks in advance for the responses.

ETA: My reason for taking these classes at this time is to pick up my middle school science endorsement. I be endorsed in math and social studies with the classes I have already taken.

I would highly recommend that you take the necessary mathematics before attempting it. BTW, even with the proper math, you'll still probably have to work your butt off! :wink:

CS
 
stewartcs said:
I would highly recommend that you take the necessary mathematics before attempting it. BTW, even with the proper math, you'll still probably have to work your butt off! :wink:

CS

Thanks for the advise. I'm thinking it would probably add a couple years to my life should I just drop it and try desperately to add into another class or even take it in the summer. I will certainly let you guys know what I decide to do... Especially if I stay in the class.
 
This is what prerequisites and corequisites are for.

If you have the prerequisite courses, you should be fine.

If not (and it would be surprising that they allowing you to take the course if this is the case) you really should do the prerequisite work first - even if it adds a couple years to your life.
 
cordes said:
Thanks for the advise. I'm thinking it would probably add a couple years to my life should I just drop it and try desperately to add into another class or even take it in the summer. I will certainly let you guys know what I decide to do... Especially if I stay in the class.

My advise to you is to drop it immediately. Because if you haven't the correct prerequisites you will fail it horrible. There are certain things assumed that you already know for the course. I don't mean to be pessimistic (I'm being realistic) but I've seen people with the correct prerequisites struggle with a course. In the end it's up to you of course. Good luck.
 

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