I need help to pick a physics book (AP Physics 1, algebra based and beyond)

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The discussion revolves around selecting appropriate physics textbooks for AP Physics 1, which is algebra-based. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various textbooks, including Giancoli Physics, College Physics by Knight, and others, while also considering additional resources for studying.

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  • Some participants suggest Giancoli Physics and College Physics by Knight as good options for AP Physics 1, noting their experiences with both books.
  • One participant mentions the Tsokos book as a resource for AP and IB physics courses, recommending multiple resources for self-study.
  • Another participant finds Tom Kibble's Classical Mechanics to be a good textbook, although unsure of its applicability to the American curriculum.
  • Some participants express that Knight's book is more beginner-friendly, while others note that it is verbose and may not be favored by students.
  • Giancoli is described as concise and well-written, with exercises that are appropriately challenging, but some participants argue that it may not align well with the AP Physics 1 exam format.
  • One participant shares a personal experience where their child had mixed results with Giancoli but performed well with another textbook, HRK.
  • There are mentions of non-academic prep books from publishers like Barrons as additional resources for exam preparation.
  • Some participants express a preference for Young and Freedman's book, though they question its suitability for the AP syllabus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which textbook is definitively better, as opinions vary based on personal experiences and learning styles. Multiple competing views remain regarding the suitability of each book for AP Physics 1.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight that the AP Physics 1 exam may favor certain textbooks over others, particularly in terms of the types of exercises included. There is also mention of the importance of calculus in understanding physics concepts, which may affect the choice of textbooks.

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I am an improving junior wanting to pass AP Physics 1, algebra based, and see if I want to pursue physics in the future. I am stuck between 2 books, Giancoli Physics and College physics by knight. I heard they are both good but I want to know if any one had experience with either. Additionally, I want to do well in UIL Physics, if anyone know what that is....
 
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There's also the Tsokos book for AP and IB physics courses:

https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Diploma-Coursebook-Digital-Access/dp/1009071882?tag=pfamazon01-20

It's better to have multiple resources when self-studying a topic. In your case, Khan Academy videos would be helpful, as would the Tsokos book.

For physics, studying without the backing of Calculus will severely limit your knowledge. With Calculus, you can derive equations and work with more interesting problems. It will also prepare you for college-level physics.
 
I'm not sure if it's applicable to american curriculum, but i'm finding Tom Kibble's Classical Mechanics a very good textbook. Hope this might help a little, good luck with your studies
 
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Giancoli; I have used it in several AP-level classes and it was well absorbed by the students. I guess you are aware of the calculus-based book by the same author, too.
 
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I am an improving junior wanting to pass AP Physics 1, algebra based, and see if I want to pursue physics in the future. I am stuck between 2 books, Giancoli Physics and College physics by knight. I heard they are both good but I want to know if any one had experience with either. Additionally, I want to do well in UIL Physics, if anyone know what that is....
I think Knight is more beginner friendly of the two
 
You may want to consider too, non-academic prep books , designed to help you pass, from the likes of Barrons and others.
 
Our first kid had Giancoli, and did not have a warm relationship with it, Ap Physics 1 was 4. Next year he had HRK and loved it, had 5 on both exams, though it was more self paced. He did not had any exams/assignments etc like in his calculus class.
Now, our second is learning Physics 1 with Serway. Will see how it will go, but it's better than Giancoli.
 
I've taught from both. Knight is the type of book that teachers love, but not students. He clearly and intuitively explains in depth many things that other books overlook or treat superficially (such as electric current in circuits, for example). However, students tend not to like Knight because he is overly verbose. He will take ten pages to describe a page of content. It makes it difficult to learn from. Giancoli is concise and well-written. The exercises in Giancoli are also just the right level of difficulty. Just enough complexity that you can't just hunt down a formula, but without going overboard.

However, the AP Physics 1 exam was clearly written around Knight. Because it is all part of the physics education research circle. If you want exercises on motion diagrams, bar charts, changing representations, interpreting graphs, analyzing lab data, deriving and interpreting symbolic expressions, etc, you need Knight. The standard textbook exercises that Giancoli and other traditional books use just don't map to the current exam. And the "AP Physics" edition of the book doesn't change that. It just astericks sections that are not on either exam.
 
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Well, both are good textbooks. It depends on the person's learning style or exam goals. Here below I would like to recommend some books that may help you.

1. Physics: Principles with Application by Douglas C. Giancoli.
2. College Physics: A strategic Approach By Randall D. Knight.

I hope it will help you.
Mamta Bankoti
 
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TensorCalculus said:
I'm quite a big Young and freedman fan, but it might not be suitable for the AP physics syllabus, I don't know... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Physics

good luck! :)
Although not a bad book. I hate the layout. Its an eyesore imo.
 

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