I need some guidance for my next school year

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a freshman Physics major regarding academic performance, study habits, and concerns about future implications of current grades. Participants share personal experiences and advice related to study time, GPA recovery, and the impact of early college grades on future opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses feelings of inadequacy regarding study habits, noting difficulty in dedicating time to studying and recalling information learned in class.
  • Another participant suggests that the amount of study time needed varies by topic and emphasizes the importance of understanding the material rather than adhering to a specific number of study hours.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of a low GPA on future graduate school applications and employment opportunities, with some suggesting that recent grades may carry more weight than early ones.
  • Discussion includes differing opinions on the appropriate amount of study time, with some advocating for around eight hours per week for challenging courses while others argue that less time may suffice for general education classes.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about struggling academically and later returning to school with a renewed perspective, suggesting that maturity can influence academic performance.
  • Another participant raises the possibility of underlying issues such as attention difficulties, prompting a suggestion to seek professional advice.
  • There is a mention of how retaking a class may affect GPA calculations, with one participant noting that policies vary by institution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on study habits and GPA recovery strategies, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach. Some agree on the necessity of significant study time for difficult subjects, while others believe that less time may be adequate for certain courses.

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Limitations include varying institutional policies on GPA calculations for retaken courses and differing personal experiences with study habits and academic challenges.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for college students facing academic challenges, particularly those in STEM fields, as well as individuals interested in study strategies and GPA management.

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Hello, I'll be finishing my freshman year of college soon and I'm pretty saddened as to the results of my academic performance. I am currently a Physics major and after my first semester I pulled off a dismal 2.7 gpa. This semester I was working for a big change, but I guess this was mainly talk for me. I estimated at a website that my cumulative gpa will be 2.3.


I feel as though my main problem is I don't really apply myself as a student too much(this has been said to me before in my high school days). Right now, I will admit that I do not put a lot of time into studying because (I know this is stupid) sometimes I feel that if I had to dedicate hours and hours of studying per week to a subject then I am not capable of surviving in the field. As in, I generally have trouble studying for more than 8 hours per week not because I am uninterested in what I am studying, but because I simply get sidetracked/restless and simply wish to do other things and then resort to cramming. I feel like I have some trouble concentrating too. In class, I'll have problems recalling what I learn or simply forget everything I learned in class. Even my notes will seem foreign to me on regular occasion.

On average, is there anyone here on the forums that really had to study and apply themselves to really understand Math/Physics? If so how many hours per week should I really study? It seems to me that everyone else in my Math and Physics classes were born to do this and I am simply a fledging student trying to get by.

Assuming I get a 2.3 or god forbid a lower gpa than that, how much of an uphill battle would be to get my gpa back up to a graduate school level (3.0 I believe it is)? Will future employers see my grades freshman year and assume I am not capable?

Lastly, in terms of redoing a class (Say I get a D the first time, retake and get an A) how will this work? Will the A just show and it will make a note that I retook the class?

Thanks in advance

-o2
 
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orgin2 said:
Lastly, in terms of redoing a class (Say I get a D the first time, retake and get an A) how will this work? Will the A just show and it will make a note that I retook the class?
Depends on the school. At mine, both show up on the transcript but only the A gets calculated in the GPA if you ask for it. This info should be in your bulletin, or ask your academic adviser.

Assuming I get a 2.3 or god forbid a lower gpa than that, how much of an uphill battle would be to get my gpa back up to a graduate school level (3.0 I believe it is)?
How many credits do you have? It's all about having enough credits worth of decent grades to balance out the bad ones, and that depends on how many you've currently got.

If so how many hours per week should I really study
However many you need to really understand the material. There's no magic number and it could very well vary by topic.

Will future employers see my grades freshman year and assume I am not capable?
Most don't ask for transcripts, and even the ones that do tend to weight your most recent grades most heavily.
 
orgin2 said:
As in, I generally have trouble studying for more than 8 hours per week ... If so how many hours per week should I really study?

Close to eight hours per week per course.
 
This might sound crazy, but maybe consider talking to a psychologist about this problem. You might have a moderate case of adult ADD. This is really something you have to ask yourself though . . . Are you legitimatly having a tough time, or are you just lazy? (I'm not calling you lazy, it's just something you have to ask yourself). It's easy to be pumped about school early in the semester, but it usually takes a lot to keep that momentum going. If you show a significant turn around, schools and employers will be able to see your progress, so it shouldn't hurt you that much, but it's something that you will really need to start taking seriously.

I did the same thing my first two semesters, and eventually dropped out with like a 1.3. After 5 years out of school, I just got back in and had my history wiped clean. I think with age and the maturity that follows, I have appreciated my time in school much more and (hopefully if nothing crazy happens) will have a 4.0 at the end of the semester (out of 4.0).

Another thing to keep in mind . . . very few people just have things that "come to them". The rest of us have to work hard. A statistic that I learned that I really keep close to home is that our brain, on average, retains something like 20% of what we hear the first time. Something like if your professor teaches you something in lecture, you can expect to remember about 20% of what they said. If you go home and either practice or study what they said THAT NIGHT, that percentage jumps to 80% retention. Your brain actually stores that information into "long term memory" files. So, for me, I have to make it a point to at least practice some of what I learned that very night for me to actually remember it. Cramming the night before just doesn't work.

Anyways, hope this helps.
 
orgin2 said:
Hello, I'll be finishing my freshman year of college soon and I'm pretty saddened as to the results of my academic performance. I am currently a Physics major and after my first semester I pulled off a dismal 2.7 gpa. This semester I was working for a big change, but I guess this was mainly talk for me. I estimated at a website that my cumulative gpa will be 2.3.
That is really bad, either you need to really put in the work from now on or you better change your field if you can't muster up enough willpower to do it. Might seem harsh but honestly, do you think that the answer would be any different?

The courses don't get easier, as you go on now you will only get more and more behind until you start failing classes. There are no shortcuts really, either start working or switch to a field that interests you enough to do it.
 
George Jones said:
Close to eight hours per week per course.
I don't really agree with this. Close to 8 hours per week for physics and math courses is definitely a good idea. but as a freshman and sophomore you take a lot of Gen Ed. BS classes where 1 to 3 hours a week is enough to get by with an A and its pointless to do more.

I got A's in Calc 1 and Calc 2 with only putting in maybe 1 hour a week in calc 1 and 3 hours in calc 2, however i would usually put in about 8 to 10 hours of studying for exams.

a lot of intro physics classes will pretty much require around 8 hours a week because of all the homework problems.
 
DrManhattanVB said:
I don't really agree with this.

This is just a rough, ballpark number. Of course, the time required depends to some extent on the student and the course.
DrManhattanVB said:
Close to 8 hours per week for physics and math courses is definitely a good idea. but as a freshman and sophomore you take a lot of Gen Ed. BS classes where 1 to 3 hours a week is enough to get by with an A and its pointless to do more.

I have no experience with this. In first year, I took two semesters of chemistry and two semesters of computer science. All the other courses that I took in university were either physics or math courses. A guy whom I know, however, is a classics professor, and he tells the students in his courses the same number, eight hours a week per course.
DrManhattanVB said:
I got A's in Calc 1 and Calc 2 with only putting in maybe 1 hour a week in calc 1 and 3 hours in calc 2, however i would usually put in about 8 to 10 hours of studying for exams.

a lot of intro physics classes will pretty much require around 8 hours a week because of all the homework problems.
 
Wow. Dude I"m also going through something similar. Sometimes I wonder if I'm lazy, afraid or have some disease. I hope you can get out of your hole, man. I really don't know much about the college system but I'm going through the exact same thing as a senior in high school.
 

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