I think beautiful is very subjiective

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The discussion revolves around the concept of beauty and its subjective nature. Participants explore whether beauty has inherent rules or reasons, examining the interplay between individual perception and shared understanding of beauty across cultures and contexts.

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  • Some participants argue that beauty is subjective and varies from person to person, suggesting that while feelings about beauty may be shared, individual appraisals can differ significantly.
  • Others propose that there are biological and instinctual tendencies that influence perceptions of beauty, such as preferences for certain physical traits or natural landscapes.
  • A few participants mention that certain patterns in facial features are universally recognized as beautiful, implying that there may be underlying mathematical regularities that guide these judgments.
  • Some contributions highlight that while physical processes are consistent, individual experiences of beauty may not be solely attributable to these processes due to the unique wiring of each person's brain.
  • There are claims that societal conditioning plays a role in shaping what individuals consider beautiful, suggesting that cultural influences can modify personal tastes over time.
  • Participants discuss the idea that despite the subjective nature of beauty, there may be a common understanding of the concept itself, even if individual experiences vary widely.

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Participants express a range of views on the nature of beauty, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree on the subjective experience of beauty, while others emphasize biological or cultural influences, leading to multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the lack of empirical evidence for claims about genetic programming of beauty standards and the unresolved nature of how physical processes relate to individual experiences of beauty.

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Beauty = mathematical symmetry (invariance or unchange under some transformation).

There are plenty of various symmetries in math.
 
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Originally posted by Alexander
Beauty = mathematical symmetry (invariance or unchange under some transformation).
There are plenty of various symmetries in math.
Alexander, don't be uni-dimensional in your vision. Maths are important but are only a mean , only one of the Paths. Assymetry has also beauty. By the way: life is inherent asymmetric.

On DNA: each person has a unique combination

quoting http://www.state.ar.us/crimelab/dna.htm :
DNA-- DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC ACID
DNA is the molecule which contains all the information for life; DNA contains the key to each person's uniqueness. At the smallest level, DNA is organized into a double helix which is repeatedly coiled to allow more of it to fit into a compact space. In humans, all the DNA is packaged into 46 separate molecules called chromosomes. These chromosomes each contain thousands of genes, with each gene specifying how to make a particular protein necessary for cellular function. DNA spells out our genetic information using nucleotides. Like a fingerprint, our DNA sequence identifies us as distinct individuals.

Some refer in relation to beauty to the "Golden Section": be amazed when you check: http://evolutionoftruth.com/adm/overview.htm
 

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