I think I may be on the verge of something BIG

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The discussion revolves around a proposed formula for calculating square roots, with participants exploring its validity and potential implications. The conversation includes elements of mathematical reasoning and personal exploration in the context of high school-level mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a formula: nx=nx-1+nx-1×(n-1), claiming it has never failed for various n/x combinations.
  • Another participant asserts that the formula simplifies to n^x, suggesting it is trivial to prove and not of significant interest to mathematicians.
  • A high school student expresses uncertainty about the originality of their formula and seeks validation from others.
  • Some participants mention that while the formula may not be groundbreaking, similar techniques can be useful in physics simulations.
  • There is a suggestion that the formula might be used as a step in proofs or calculations without much thought in mathematical practice.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of the proposed formula, with some considering it trivial while others acknowledge its potential utility in specific contexts. No consensus is reached regarding its originality or importance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the formula may not be new and highlight the importance of context in evaluating its usefulness. There are also indications of varying levels of mathematical understanding among participants.

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I don't know if this formula already exists, but I think this may lead to finally finding the fail-proof square-root formula. What I've got now is this:

nx=nx-1+nx-1×(n-1)

I don't know if anyone else has actually discovered the above formula, but I do know that this has never failed for all the n/x combinations i have used. Let me know what you think!
 
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Chris Davis said:
but I do know that this has never failed for all the n/x combinations i have used.
It has never failed, and it never will.[tex]n^{x-1}+n^{x-1}(n-1) = n^{x-1}+n^{x-1}\times n-n^{x-1}\times 1[/tex][tex]=n^{x-1}+n^{x}-n^{x-1}=n^x[/tex]
 
I'm sorry, I'm not a mathmetician. I'm just a high school student. I'm just trying to do the impossible on the off-chance that I might actually discover something. And no, it is NOT April 1.
 
Chris Davis said:
I'm sorry, I'm not a mathmetician. I'm just a high school student. I'm just trying to do the impossible on the off-chance that I might actually discover something. And no, it is NOT April 1.
Edited out the snark. :P I'll say don't give up, but you may want some guidance. Here's an interesting site I just found that will keep you busy for a while: http://unsolvedproblems.org/
 
Thanks a lot. So that formula that I put up actually WAS already discovered? Just wanting to make sure, so I don't make a fool of myself.
 
Chris Davis said:
So that formula that I put up actually WAS already discovered?
I wouldn't say it was "discovered" specifically, but it's trivial enough to prove that it isn't really of much interest to mathematicians. However, sometimes little tricks like these allow speedups in physics simulations or other codes (look up 0x5f3759df for a famous example), but you'd have to show that it's better than the existing routines.
 
okay, thanks a lot. I'll keep that in mind. For now, back to my experiments!
 
TeethWhitener said:
It has never failed, and it never will.[tex]n^{x-1}+n^{x-1}(n-1) = n^{x-1}+n^{x-1}\times n-n^{x-1}\times 1[/tex][tex]=n^{x-1}+n^{x}-n^{x-1}=n^x[/tex]
Or, more simply, ##n^{x - 1} + n^{x - 1}(n - 1) = n^{x - 1}(1 + n - 1) = n^{x - 1}\cdot n = n^x##
 
TeethWhitener said:
I wouldn't say it was "discovered" specifically, but it's trivial enough to prove that it isn't really of much interest to mathematicians.
In other words, if you study physics or mathematics you probably use it as a step in some proof or calculation multiple times without thinking about it.
 

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