Euclid's formula and real numbers

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The discussion revolves around the application of Euclid's formula for generating Pythagorean triples, specifically exploring whether this formula holds true for all real numbers, not just integers. Participants examine the implications of using non-integer values for the parameters in the formula.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that using non-whole numbers for m and n still yields valid sides of a right triangle, suggesting that Euclid's formula may apply to all real numbers.
  • Another participant asserts that algebra is applicable to real numbers as well as whole numbers, implying that the proof for Euclid's formula remains unchanged regardless of the type of numbers used.
  • A participant mentions that any Pythagorean triple can be scaled by a real number to generate another Pythagorean triple, indicating the existence of an infinite number of real number Pythagorean triples.
  • Several participants reference a video from 3Blue1Brown, suggesting it may provide additional insights or explanations related to the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of confidence regarding the applicability of Euclid's formula to real numbers. While some assert that the algebraic principles apply universally, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the existence of a formal proof for this extension.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not address specific mathematical proofs or constraints that may apply to the use of real numbers in Euclid's formula, leaving these aspects unresolved.

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Generating the sides of a right triangle using all real numbers
Recently I created a spreadsheet that generates Phythagorean triples. Curious, instead of using only positive integers for the values of m and n, I found that as long as m>n, the sides 2mn, msq + nsq, msq - nsq, still form the sides of a right triangle even though m and n are non-whole numbers. I assume this is no big deal and that this is already known in the mathematical community. Does anyone know of a proof that Euclid's formula works for the set of all real numbers, not just for integer numbers?
 
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e2m2a said:
Summary:: Generating the sides of a right triangle using all real numbers

Recently I created a spreadsheet that generates Phythagorean triples. Curious, instead of using only positive integers for the values of m and n, I found that as long as m>n, the sides 2mn, msq + nsq, msq - nsq, still form the sides of a right triangle even though m and n are non-whole numbers. I assume this is no big deal and that this is already known in the mathematical community. Does anyone know of a proof that Euclid's formula works for the set of all real numbers, not just for integer numbers?
Algebra works for real numbers as well as whole numbers. The proof is the same, whether the sides are real numbers or whole numbers.

PS There are no real constraints on real Pythagorean triples. If ##a, b## are positive real numbers, then ##a, b, \sqrt{a^2 + b^2}## is a Pythagorean triple.
 
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ok thanks for your reply.
 
You might find this 3Blue1Brown video interesting
 
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Given any Pythagorean triple and multiplying by some real number scaling factor will generate a real number Pythagorean triple too. An infinite number of them.
 
robphy said:
You might find this 3Blue1Brown video interesting

Cool. Thanks for the video.
 

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