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The discussion centers around a biology major's desire to transition into mathematics, exploring the necessary prerequisites for graduate studies in math, potential fields of interest, and the implications of their current academic standing. Participants provide insights on the nature of mathematics compared to calculus courses, suggest alternative fields, and discuss the feasibility of pursuing a math degree.

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  • Some participants caution that the experience of math in higher education may differ significantly from calculus courses, emphasizing the importance of understanding proofs and theoretical concepts.
  • Suggestions are made to explore various types of mathematics, including applied mathematics and fields like bioinformatics or mathematical biology, which may align better with the participant's background.
  • There is a discussion about the potential benefits of taking additional math courses to improve GPA and prepare for graduate studies, with some participants noting that upper-level math grades might positively influence overall GPA considerations for grad schools.
  • Some participants recommend specific math books to gauge interest in more advanced topics and suggest that the participant consider their enjoyment of mathematical proofs.
  • Alternative pathways, such as post-baccalaureate programs and the possibility of staying at the current university to complete prerequisites, are mentioned as options for the participant.

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Participants express a range of views on the nature of mathematics and the suitability of different fields. There is no consensus on the best path forward, as opinions vary on the importance of proof-based courses versus applied mathematics.

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Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding the definitions of pure versus applied mathematics and the prerequisites for graduate programs, indicating that the discussion may depend on individual interpretations and institutional requirements.

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Students considering a transition from biology to mathematics, those interested in applied mathematics or mathematical biology, and individuals exploring graduate program requirements in mathematics.

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So I'm a 4th year biology major. I absolutely hate what I have been/am learning but that's another story. Ideally, I'd like to get into the field of math and get a master's/PhD degree but I've only taken up to CalcII - and that was about 3 and a half years ago. I did, however, love the math classes I was taking and I've always felt that it was the right path for me. I really, honestly enjoyed doing math problems and they gave me a joy that I wasn't getting from learning chemistry and biology.

Now, like I said, I want to get a masters but I know that there are pre-reqs I need to do. Should I hold up graduation and finish them or do a post-bacc program? I'd like to get into research if I do hold up my graduation and I can also rack up math related LORs as well.

My gpa is not so great, too. Again, a story for another time. If I do well in my upper level maths, will this be added to my undergrad gpa? Will grad schools take that into consideration?

Help me out!
 
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If you've only taken up to calculus 2 and decided you like math based on classes, it might not be what you are expecting it to be.
 
Math is nothing like what they teach in calculus II. Math is really heavy on proofs and it isn't certain you will like that.

I suggest you take out an actual math book first and go through it. For example, if you like "Calculus" by Spivak or "A book of abstract algbra" by Pinter, then you'll probably like mathematics. You'll see soon enough that a math degree is very different from calculus classes.
 
There is also the field of theoretical/mathematical biology or biostatistics that you could look into.
 
I know someone at my university who's in a similar situation. If you are willing to take the time to turn around, I'd think it's doable. It's going to be hard, but if you find it gratifying, it'll be worth it.

If you're a woman, there's a post-bac at Smith you might look at (although that's for women who want to go into PhD programs). There's also one at Brandeis--for anyone. Or you could just stick around at your current university. I think the minimum entrance requirements for master's programs tend to be multivariable calc and linear algebra.
 
Your comment reminds me of this:


(Not intending to be rude, but I'm sure you can see the similarities.)
 
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Most of these comments, related to writing proofs for example, seem to be directed towards a degree in pure math.

I think if you were to go for a degree in applied mathematics or something like computational engineering/science. You would likely not see as many proof filled courses.
 
The math you're talking about sounds more like physics or applied math than pure math. I'm not sure if you understand what pure math is, but if you want to do something that you enjoyed before in your previous math classes, you will want to go applied. I know you said you hated biology, but perhaps you can get over that if you see that there is a lot of mathematics that can be used in biology (and people who can do that are in demand).

If you're wanting to use your biology background and not have it wasted, you could take the following classes: multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, statistics, and perhaps a numerical programming class for scientists/engineers, although a normal programming class would be okay too. This would only take you about two semesters (with hard work), in which case you would be ready to do higher level research in the field. Having those classes, plus your biology degree would make you a suitable candidate for graduate school in an applied mathematics department.
 

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