What are the best European countries for those who prefer warm weather?

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The discussion centers on the appeal of European countries for individuals seeking warmer climates and a more vibrant lifestyle compared to the USA. Participants share experiences from various countries including France, Germany, Finland, and the Netherlands, highlighting the friendly atmosphere and laid-back lifestyle in Europe. Concerns about safety in cities like Brussels and the cultural differences, such as the lack of ice in drinks and higher living costs, are also mentioned. Ultimately, the conversation reflects a desire for adventure and a different way of life, with specific mentions of Switzerland and Germany as preferred destinations.

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  • Understanding of cultural differences between the USA and European countries
  • Familiarity with travel experiences in France, Germany, and the Netherlands
  • Knowledge of European social dynamics and lifestyle
  • Awareness of safety concerns in urban areas like Brussels
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  • Research the cultural norms and lifestyle differences in Switzerland and Germany
  • Explore travel safety tips for major European cities, particularly Brussels
  • Investigate the economic conditions and living costs in Spain and Greece
  • Learn about the public transportation systems in various European countries
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Travel enthusiasts, expatriates considering relocation, and individuals interested in understanding the cultural dynamics of European countries compared to the USA.

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It seems like everything is more fun over there!

USA is getting boring T.T

Need to graduate so I can get out of this country
 
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Maylis said:
It seems like everything is more fun over there!

Yep, it's a continuous party over here!
 
Have you done any travel in Europe? For that matter, have you traveled the US extensively?
 
You should read the economics and politics over here.
 
Yes, I've traveled in France, Germany, Finland, Sweden, and The Netherlands.

And yes, I was at an international school for over a week in Finland and all the Europeans partied every single day.

I've been around the USA as well, Boston, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Miami, Texas, etc. I don't know why, but Europeans just seem to be way more friendly and the lifestyle over there is a lot more laid back.

I had a conversation with a Swiss political columnist when I was in Paris. I know they have some messed up politics. It seems that Brussels is the criminal city of Europe. Sounds like Chicago in the USA haha.

One of my hosts in Paris said not to go to bruxelles because it's a town of criminals with nothing to show. The other German said his rental car was stolen there. But I still want to go. I only got to be in a train station in Belgium, haven't done any extensive traveling there.
 
Maylis said:
One of my hosts in Paris said not to go to bruxelles because it's a town of criminals with nothing to show.

That's just french people hating on belgium. I'm sure Paris is more dangerous than Brussels.
 
Ah, Europe. The mythical homegenous political entity, to which all Yanks yearn to return their prodigal genetic material. Here, plumbers are Polish, cars are German, wine is French, gandja is Dutch, and women are bearded. In Europe, parties are wild and not bipartisan. Ruled by the Queen and Silvio Berlusconi from their royal seat in Vatican, the land has enjoyed lasting peace for the past hundreds of years, broken only by minor quarrels of little significance.

By Jove, how boring it is! I want to live in Asia. Everything seems more fun over there.
 
Well, my next adventure in upcoming months is to Hong Kong, China, and southeast asia =)

I know I have rosy colored vision of my trip to Europe last summer. I do recognize some conveniences that are in the USA that aren't in Europe. Such things include the lack of ice in Europe, paying for water because by default you get mineral water (I spent 20€ in the Netherlands because I thought the 7 waters I drank out of stupid 100 mL cups were free like back home), getting gas water by default unless asking for non-gas, and generally higher prices for everything. Generally smaller living spaces and more cramming...Well, maybe the USA isn't so bad after all, but I still want my rosy colored vision of Europe in my head :D
 
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SteamKing said:
If things get too slow in France, students and immigrants have been known to throw 'bloc' parties, where you can get your car overturned and/or torched. And, from what I hear, anti-semitism is making a comeback on the Continent:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a8ae34-1a71-4f50-893a-9842af51e3ce_story.html

Yep! Europe, it's a laff-a-minute kinda place!

Adios, muchacho!

As far as anti-Semitism in Europe is concerned, it may be worth reading the following counterpoint from the Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/europ...g-violent-anti-semitism-guns-and-ballot-boxes
 
  • #11
SteamKing said:
If things get too slow in France, students and immigrants have been known to throw 'bloc' parties, where you can get your car overturned and/or torched. And, from what I hear, anti-semitism is making a comeback on the Continent:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a8ae34-1a71-4f50-893a-9842af51e3ce_story.html

Yep! Europe, it's a laff-a-minute kinda place!

Adios, muchacho!

yeah, but you get your manual transmission car overturned :-p
 
  • #12
Maylis said:
yeah, but you get your manual transmission car overturned :-p

...by thugs who appreciate good wine and cheese!
 
  • #13
lisab said:
...by thugs who appreciate good wine and cheese!
Well, actually IIRC, they were in poor immigrant neighborhoods. Not necessarily French.
 
  • #14
I know people fed with Europe and thinking about moving to US.

You can't have everyone happy.
 
  • #15
There are always some who insist upon the right to complain. Even if it's only to complain about the lack of things to complain about. Even heaven had dissent.
 
  • #16
Maylis said:
Yes, I've traveled in France ... I don't know why, but Europeans just seem to be way more friendly

Sorry, there's a contradiction here...


and the lifestyle over there is a lot more laid back.

Might it be that you were on vacation? That'll make most places seem better.
 
  • #17
To a lot of people, it is better somewhere else. Here in the UK, people think the USA is awesome and so on. However, as much as it may not be true, moving somewhere away may make said person happier not because the country is better but because it is different. I think saying you want to move to Europe is very vague though. If I wanted to move anywhere else in Europe it would probably be Germany or Switzerland. I think Spain and Greece have too many issues economically, or so I've read.
 
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tridianprime said:
To a lot of people, it is better somewhere else. Here in the UK, people think the USA is awesome and so on. However, as much as it may not be true, moving somewhere away may make said person happier not because the country is better but because it is different. I think saying you want to move to Europe is very vague though. If I wanted to move anywhere else in Europe it would probably be Germany or Switzerland. I think Spain and Greece have too many issues economically, or so I've read.

Greece is meant to be recovering now, and Spain's economy is too dependent upon tourism.
 
  • #19
Maylis said:
One of my hosts in Paris said not to go to bruxelles because it's a town of criminals with nothing to show.

Nothing to show? There's a famous statue of a boy taking a pee! What more do you want?!?
 
  • #20
Maylis said:
One of my hosts in Paris said not to go to Bruxelles because it's a town of criminals with nothing to show.

That all started with the European parliament.
Also I don't think there's too much trouble except in some bad parts. But hey France has some good parts, just as Brussels has some bad parts :-)

Also in rural areas it's quite nice. I don't like cities in general.

Last tip; don't rely on the Belgian railway organisation. They are on time once every 5 years.
 
  • #22
I learned trains in Europe are infamous for not being on time. My train connection was an hour late so I missed my train to Stuttgart from Paris. I was happy with the SNCF as they put me in a hotel in Paris for the night :)

May I ask because I was never really satisfied with any answer given, what is up with the total lack of ice in Europe? Not one restaurant puts ice in your water!
 
  • #23
Maylis said:
I learned trains in Europe are infamous for not being on time. My train connection was an hour late so I missed my train to Stuttgart from Paris. I was happy with the SNCF as they put me in a hotel in Paris for the night :)

May I ask because I was never really satisfied with any answer given, what is up with the total lack of ice in Europe? Not one restaurant puts ice in your water!

Compared to what though? I don't think there is a massive issue and I imagine it's about the same as the USA. I think most trains aren't great unless you're in Japan.

All in all, I don't think they are particularly bad or any worse than most places.

Disclaimer: I could of course be completely wrong because I have only ever been to western Europe and not Scandinavia or Eastern Europe.
 
  • #24
As of today, don't try train in Poland. They are getting worse with each passing year.

But the idea of "trains in Europe" doesn't make much sense. Each country is different.
 
  • #25
The trains in Italy are really good, and I've never noticed the lack of ice in water thing?
 
  • #26
Trains in England are pretty much always on time, unless there's some sort of accident which I suppose isn't that rare, but they cost an absolute bomb. Every year prices go up ahead of inflation.
 
  • #27
True. My experience was Germans telling me the German trains are more often late than not. My French train experience was only my own.
 
  • #28
Maylis said:
My experience was Germans telling me the German trains are more often late than not.

Funny thing - punctuality of German trains is proverbial in Poland.
 
  • #29
Ryan_m_b said:
Trains in England are pretty much always on time, unless there's some sort of accident which I suppose isn't that rare, but they cost an absolute bomb. Every year prices go up ahead of inflation.

That's privatisation for you.
 
  • #30
tridianprime said:
I think most trains aren't great unless you're in Japan.

Heh, I thought you were being sarcastic and I was expecting this clip in your link;

 
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