I wrote the function y^50=x^2-5x-9.

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The discussion revolves around the function y50 = x2 - 5x - 9, specifically addressing the behavior of the curve in relation to the x-axis and the perceived gap between them. Participants explore the implications of the function's roots and the accuracy of graphing software in representing the curve.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a gap between the curve and the x-axis, questioning whether this is due to program accuracy or an inherent property of the function.
  • Another participant inquires about the limit of the quadratic function as x approaches positive infinity, suggesting it tends to infinity.
  • A participant describes the graph's shape, indicating a gap on the left side, which leads to a discussion about potential discontinuities.
  • Some participants assert that there is a discontinuity related to the real roots of the quadratic function, suggesting it should occur between the zeros on the x-axis.
  • There is a suggestion that the observed gap is an inaccuracy in the graphing program, as the quadratic function has real roots and is continuous.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of considering the behavior of the function near its zeros, suggesting that the graphing program may not accurately represent points very close to zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the gap between the curve and the x-axis, with some attributing it to the graphing program's limitations while others discuss the mathematical properties of the function. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact cause of the gap.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the continuity of the quadratic and fiftieth root functions, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the accuracy of the graphing program and the behavior of the function near its zeros.

prasannapakkiam
I wrote the function y^50=x^2-5x-9. I found a large gap between the function from the x-axis to the end of the curve. My calculations show that the curve must touch the x-axis. Is this due to the accuracy of the program or does this curve indeed have a gap from the x-axis to the curve?
 
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What is the limit of x^2-5x-9 as x goes to positive infinity?
 
Well it tends to Infinity? But I don't see how that helps...
 
aaaaaaaa I think there is a misunderstanding.

Okay the graph looks in a way like this like this:

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the gap is on the left:smile:
 
You mean there is a discontinuity?
 
Yes I suppose you could call it that
 
There is something wrong. There is a discontinuity, since x^2-5x-9 has real roots and hence an interval over which it is negative, but this discontinuity should be between the zeros, on the x-axis that is.
 
hmm. So this is due clearly to the accuracy of the program?

As I thought that the range was: yER
 
That's just an inaccuracy in the graphing program. The quadratic has 2 real roots, so the function hits zero, and both the quadratic and the fiftieth root function are continuous on their domains, so all the points in between appear as well.
 
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Thanks for the confirmation.
 
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Think about this prasannapakkiam, what happens to [tex]x^{\frac{1}{50}}[/tex] when x is close to zero but not exactly zero. Try some examples on your calculator, like 0.001^(1/50) for example.

Remember that your graphing program probably just chooses a bunch of points to evaluate and probably doesn't hit the zeros dead on. Can you see why [tex]x^2 - 5x -9[/tex] may be very close to zero but [tex](x^2 - 5x -9)^{\frac{1}{50}}[/tex] not necessarily so!

What I'm saying is this: Yes it is inaccuracy in the program that is causing the effect, but very much relevant to this is the nature of the function in question at points in the neighbourhood of it's zeros.
 
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