Ideal gas in a cylindrical container

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The discussion revolves around the statistical mechanics of an ideal gas contained within a cylindrical container, focusing on the calculation of the partition function and the implications of gravitational potential energy on the system.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the partition function, discussing the integration over momenta and spatial coordinates. There are questions regarding the dimensionality of the partition function and the role of temperature in the calculations. Some participants suggest considering Cartesian coordinates for simplification and question the impact of gravitational potential energy on the limits of integration.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the assumptions made in the calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations and approaches are being explored, particularly regarding the integration limits and the dimensionality of the problem.

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Participants note the potential complexity introduced by the gravitational term in the partition function and the need for specific information about the cylinder's height to proceed with the calculations.

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Homework Statement
For an ideal gas of N particles in a cylindrical container with constant gravitational potential ##\vec{g}=g\hat{e}_{z}##: find system's internal energy, entropy and specific heat in constant volume. The system is in thermal equilibrium with surroundings of temperature ##T##.
Relevant Equations
Partition function:
$$Q = \frac{1}{N! h^{3N}} \int \exp{(-H\beta)} d \Gamma \textrm{,}$$
where ##d\Gamma = d\vec{r}_{1}...d\vec{r}_{N}d\vec{p}_{1}...d\vec{p}_{N}##, ##\beta=\frac{1}{k_{B}T}##, ##k_{B}## - Boltzmann constant, ##d\vec{r}_{i}=r_{i}dr_{i}d\phi_{i} dz_{i}##.
Hamiltonian in cylindrical coordinates:
$$\frac{1}{2m}(p^2_{r}+p^2_{\phi}/r^2+p^2_{z})+gz$$
Helmholtz free energy:
$$F=-k_{B}T\ln(Q)$$
Entropy:
$$S=-\frac{\partial F}{\partial T}$$
Specific heat at constant volume:
$$C_{V}=T\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}$$
It looks more like a computational obstacle, but here we go.
Plugging all of these to the partition function:
$$Q = \frac{1}{N! h^{3N}} \int -\exp(\frac{1}{2m}(p^2_{r}+p^2_{\phi}/r^2+p^2_{z})+gz)d\Gamma=$$
$$= \frac{1}{N! h^{3N}} \int \exp{(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{r})}dp_{r_{1}}...dp_{r_{N}}
\int \exp{(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{z}-gz)}dp_{z_{1}}...dp_{z_{N}} \cdot \\
\cdot \int \exp(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{\phi}/r^2)dp_{\phi_{1}}...dp_{\phi_{N}}d\vec{r}_{1}r_{1}...d\vec{r}_{N}r_{N}\textrm{.}$$
I know how to calculate the first integral with respect to momenta ##p_{r}## and the one with ##p_{\phi}## momenta.
$$\int \exp{(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{r})}dp_{r_{1}}...dp_{r_{N}} = (2m\pi)^{N/2} \textrm{,}$$
$$\int \exp(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{\phi}/r^2)dp_{\phi_{1}}...dp_{\phi_{N}} = (2m\pi)^{N/2}r^N \textrm{.}$$
What I'm left with is:
$$
Q = \frac{1}{N! h^{3N}} (2m\pi)^{N}r^N \int \exp{(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{z}-gz)}dp_{z_{1}}...dp_{z_{N}}\int d\vec{r}_{1}r_{1}...d\vec{r}_{N}r_{N}
\textrm{.}
$$
the last part should be ##N## times the volume of a cylinder (I guess):
$$
Q = \frac{1}{N! h^{3N}} (2m)^{N}r^{3N}\pi^{2N} z^{N} \int \exp{(\frac{-1}{2m}p^2_{z}-gz)}dp_{z_{1}}...dp_{z_{N}}
\textrm{.}
$$
But I'm quite certain it's wrong at this point because ##Q## should be ##N##-dimensional. I'd really appreciate help, hints, literature that anybody could provide.
 
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Looks N dimensional to me. What happened to Temperature?
 
The gravitational potential energy should be ## mgz ##, if I'm not mistaken.
 
I think it will be simpler to work in Cartesian coordinates rather than cylindrical coordinates.

Are you given any information about the height of the cylinder?
 
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CptXray said:
the last part should be NNN times the volume of a cylinder (I guess):

It would if ##e^{-gz}## wasn't present. In that case you need limits on ##z##
 

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