If a^2 divides b^2, a divides b

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical statements regarding divisibility, specifically whether \(a^2\) dividing \(b^2\) implies that \(a\) divides \(b\), and a similar statement involving \(b^3\). Participants are exploring the implications of these statements in the context of number theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the implications of \(c\) being a perfect square in relation to the divisibility conditions. There is also a suggestion to consider the nature of square roots of integers. Additionally, one participant proposes a more general approach involving prime divisors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the second question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of integers and perfect squares, and there is an exploration of potential counterexamples.

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Participants are grappling with the sufficiency of the conditions given in the problem statements and the implications of their assumptions about divisibility and perfect squares.

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Homework Statement


If a^2 divides b^2, then a divides b
Also
If a^2 divides b^3, then a divides b

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The Attempt at a Solution


For the first question, if a^2 divides b^2, then b^2=(a^2)c where c is some integer
c=(b^2)/(a^2)
c=(b/a)^2
The answers in the back say that it is enough to show that c is a perfect square, but I don't see how that's sufficient. If c is a perfect square, then c is an integer, which implies that a^2 divides b^2, which we already knew.

No idea where to go for the second question. The same strategy doesn't seem to work.
 
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It might help to try to establish this fact: the square root of an integer is either an integer or an irrational number.
 
DerpyPenguin said:

Homework Statement


If a^2 divides b^2, then a divides b
Also
If a^2 divides b^3, then a divides b

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first question, if a^2 divides b^2, then b^2=(a^2)c where c is some integer
c=(b^2)/(a^2)
c=(b/a)^2
The answers in the back say that it is enough to show that c is a perfect square, but I don't see how that's sufficient. If c is a perfect square, then c is an integer, which implies that a^2 divides b^2, which we already knew.

No idea where to go for the second question. The same strategy doesn't seem to work.

A more general approach to those problems would start with:

Let ##p## be a prime divisor of ##a## of order ##n##.
 
DerpyPenguin said:
No idea where to go for the second question. The same strategy doesn't seem to work.

You could try to find a counterexample!
 
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