If electrons are fundamental particles then why do they -

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The discussion explores the nature of electrons as fundamental particles and their interactions with photons and Z particles, particularly focusing on the implications of these interactions for mass and particle identity. It encompasses theoretical considerations, mechanisms of particle interactions, and the nature of mass in relativistic contexts.

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  • One participant questions the mechanism of electron interactions with photons and Z particles, wondering if absorbed photons could transform electrons into muons or taus, or if electrons gain mass as they approach the speed of light.
  • Another participant asserts that particles do not gain mass when accelerated; instead, they gain energy in their own frame of reference, raising the question of whether an electron can possess multiple masses simultaneously.
  • A different participant clarifies that photons do not convert electrons into muons or taus, emphasizing that such transformations require weak interactions, not electromagnetic interactions.
  • Another participant discusses the Quantum Field Theory perspective, stating that it does not provide a straightforward picture of particle emissions and absorptions, but rather predicts probabilities related to these events.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of mass in relation to particle acceleration and the mechanisms of particle transformation, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about mass and energy in different reference frames, as well as the interpretations of Quantum Field Theory that remain unresolved.

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If electrons are fundamental particles and leptons then what happens when they emit or absorb photons or Z particles? What is known about the mechanism of these aborptions or emissions for any particles? Do the absorbed electrons gain mass as particles are described to do as they move nearer to the speed of light? or do the absorbed photons cause electrons to become muons or taus?

Further, if an electron is accelerated nearer the speed of light will it at some point obtain the mass of a muon or tau? Would this make that equal in character to the muon or tau? thanks
 
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invrlovduanyway said:
Further, if an electron is accelerated nearer the speed of light will it at some point obtain the mass of a muon or tau? Would this make that equal in character to the muon or tau? thanks
Particles do not gain mass as they are accelerated, they gain the energy equivalent but in their own frame of reference, they have not changed mass.

Think about it this way. EVERY electron is traveling near the speed of light from some reference frame and slower in other reference frames. Can an electron have more than one mass at a time?
 
invrlovduanyway said:
do the absorbed photons cause electrons to become muons or taus?

No. Photons are associated with the electromagnetic interaction, which never changes the type of particle.

In order to convert among electron, muon and tau, you have to use the weak interaction. For example, a μ- can decay into a muon neutrino and a virtual W-, with the W- producing an electron plus an electron-antineutrino, giving the net result $$\mu^- \rightarrow e^- + \nu_\mu + {\bar \nu}_e$$
 
invrlovduanyway said:
If electrons are fundamental particles and leptons then what happens when they emit or absorb photons or Z particles?

The Quantum Field Theory picture is not like that. The theory says nothing in terms of everyday pictures of that sort.

Quantum fields are a superposition in the quantum sense of zero particles, one particle, two particles etc etc and the same field for each particle permiates all space. All it alolows you to precict is the probability of when a particle will be detected. For examople eleectrons can emit photons but the theory doesn't say how that happens, simply the probabilities of detecting an emitted photon and the electron loosing energy.

Thanks
Bill
 

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