If Mass can be turned into energy, can enegry be turned to Mass?

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The discussion explores the concept of whether energy can be converted into mass, examining theoretical implications and practical examples. It touches on various aspects of physics, including particle physics and thermodynamics, and references the big bang theory as a potential context for this conversion.

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  • Some participants question what form mass would take if energy could be converted into mass, suggesting that this could illuminate aspects of the big bang theory.
  • One participant asserts that the mass of particles like photons is derived from energy, although they express disinterest in discussing the big bang theory further.
  • A historical reference is made to a lecture by an Italian physicist who proposed that a large solenoid with significant current could create a gravitational field that approximates mass.
  • Another participant suggests that energy can take on a mass-like form, indicating that stored energy could manifest as mass.
  • A detailed explanation is provided regarding the conversion of energy into mass during high-energy collisions of protons, where quarks are produced from stored energy, leading to the creation of new particles under specific conditions.
  • One participant mentions "pair production" as a relevant concept without elaboration.
  • A practical example is given where raising the temperature of water results in a minuscule increase in mass, illustrating energy's effect on mass without creating new molecules.

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Participants express a variety of viewpoints on the conversion of energy to mass, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree on the theoretical possibility of such conversion, while others provide differing examples and interpretations of the process.

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The discussion includes references to specific physical processes and concepts, such as pair production and the effects of temperature on mass, but does not resolve the complexities or assumptions underlying these ideas.

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Also what form would this Mass take?
And if this was possible would this not shine a bit of light on the plausibility of the big bangtheory?
Probably a bit of a stupid question but I am but a young buck.
 
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If Mass can be turned into energy, can enegry be turned to Mass?

Yes, this is where the mass of particles such as the photon comes from.

You will have to ask others about the 'big bang' I have no interest there.
 
Years ago I was told "equivalent". I attended a Lecture from a Italian Physicist, "Maconi". He suggested a large solenoid, with enormous amounts of current would have a field density that would have it's own "gravity", "approximating "mass".

That's the best I can do, I'm sure others can give better examples.
 
Mass can be of some other type which you can think of rather than SOLID

If we can store energy by any means, certainly, it will attain the shape of some mass
 
Converting energy into mass happens when you smash protons together so hard that it knocks the quarks out. The quark flying off stores energy in the bond being stretched like a rubber band, until it has stored enough energy that it can create more quarks.

Photons with high enough energy can create matter particles.

Bonding energy and potential energy within atomic and subatomic structures show up directly as measurable mass of the resulting system.

What "form"? If you create brand new particles, you get a balance of particles and anti-particles (though some particles are their own anti). Which particle you create is limited by the mass of the particle: you need enough energy to create it. And, it has to be a kind of particle that relates with the form of energy being applied. Within those rules, it's totally random.

If you add energy to an existing particle or system of particles, it just gets heavier.
 
Google"pair production"
 
If you take 1 kg of water and raise its temperature by 50°C, you will end up with 1.000000000002 kg of water i.e. you have "converted" 0.2 megajoules of heat energy into 2 nanograms of water.

Note that you have not created any new molecules of water, but the collection of molecules has a little more inertia than it had before.
 

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