If n is an integer, and 3n+2 is even, prove that n is also even

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The discussion revolves around proving that if \( n \) is an integer and \( 3n + 2 \) is even, then \( n \) must also be even. Participants explore various proof techniques, including contrapositive proofs, and engage in clarifying the implications of odd and even integers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a contrapositive proof, stating that if \( n \) is odd, then \( 3n + 2 \) should be shown to be even.
  • Another participant questions whether they need to show that \( 6k + 5 \) is odd for any integer \( k \) and discusses the form of odd numbers.
  • A participant proposes that \( 3n + 2 = 2k \) for some integer \( k \) and derives \( n = \frac{2(k-1)}{3} \), suggesting that \( n \) must be even.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the proof structure and whether their reasoning is circular or correct.
  • One participant provides a step-by-step breakdown of the contrapositive proof, concluding that \( 3n + 2 \) is odd when \( n \) is odd, but does not confirm the validity of the proof.
  • Another participant simplifies the argument by stating that if \( 3n + 2 \) is even, then \( 3n \) must also be even, leading to the conclusion that \( n \) is even.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the proof methods, with some supporting the contrapositive approach while others explore different reasoning. There is no consensus on the best method or the correctness of the proofs presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential confusion regarding the definitions of odd and even integers, the structure of proofs, and the implications of their mathematical steps. Some express concern about circular reasoning in their arguments.

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I am coming across hiccups in my proof process. I am given this problem - Prove: if n is an integer and 3n + 2 is even that n is also even. I have to apply a contrapositive proof to this problem. The form is then \negq therefore \negp .The problem becomes - if n is odd, prove that 3n+2 is even.

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Prove - if n is odd, prove that 3n+2 is even.

step 1 - if n is odd, n = 2k+1 for some integer k

step 2 - 3n + 2 = 3(2k+1) + 2 = 6k + 5

step 3 - This is my issue. A contrapositive proof for this problem would give not 'p', or, that 3n+2 is odd when n is odd. Do I now have to show that 6k + 5 is an odd number for any positive integer k? Or, should I just prove that 3n + 2 is odd when n is odd? If I take this route, could I choose another proof method, essentially having a 'proof within a proof'?
 
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velouria131 said:
Prove: if n is an integer and 3n + 2 is even that n is also even. I have to apply a contrapositive proof to this problem. The form is then \negq therefore \negp .The problem becomes - if n is odd, prove that 3n+2 is even.

I'm assuming that's a typo.

Do I now have to show that 6k + 5 is an odd number for any positive integer k?

Probably not, but it's better to be safe. An odd number is an integer of form 2m+1. Find m and you are done.
 
pwsnafu said:
Probably not, but it's better to be safe. An odd number is an integer of form 2m+1. Find m and you are done.

I am still not sure where I would take this proof. I apologize in advance as this is maybe the third proof I have done, and lack serious intution. How would I go about asserting that 6k + 5 is odd for any integer k? Would I do this:

6k + 2 = 2m + 1

m = 3k + 2

...however, this feels like circular logic. Does this mean that 6k+2 takes the form of an odd integer, and is therefore odd?
 
What about this?

3n+2=2k where k is some integer

n=2(k-1)/3

If n is an integer (given) it has to be even with 2 as a factor.
 
velouria131 said:
I am still not sure where I would take this proof. I apologize in advance as this is maybe the third proof I have done, and lack serious intution. How would I go about asserting that 6k + 5 is odd for any integer k? Would I do this:

6k + 2 = 2m + 1

m = 3k + 2

...however, this feels like circular logic. Does this mean that 6k+2 takes the form of an odd integer, and is therefore odd?

You need to stop being careless with your posting. It's "+5" not "+2".
And yes. We prove something is odd by either
  1. Showing that it is equal to 2m+1 for some integer m, or
  2. Show the number is congruent to 1 (mod 2).
And it's easy enough to show that those two statements amount to the same thing.

rollingstein said:
What about this?

3n+2=2k where k is some integer

n=2(k-1)/3

If n is an integer (given) it has to be even with 2 as a factor.

That's not a contrapositive proof.
 
pwsnafu said:
That's not a contrapositive proof.

Sorry. Didn't read that requirement. My bad.
 
P1:If 3n+2 is even then n is also even

P2:Contrapositive of P1: If n is odd then 3n + 2 is odd

n=2k+1 where k=0,1,2,...

3n+2=6k+3+2
= 6k+5
=6k+6-1
=2(3k+3) - 1
= even - 1
= odd

QED?
 
3n+2 even
=>3n even
=>n even. This is the basic idea.
 

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