Proving Different Parities in Integer Sums

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship between the parities of two integers, x and y, and the parity of their sum, specifically in the context of the expression 3x + 3y. Participants explore the implications of different parity combinations and the structure of mathematical proofs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a proof that if the sum 3x + 3y is odd, then x and y must have different parities, using specific integer representations.
  • Another participant challenges the proof by questioning whether the sum can be odd under other circumstances, suggesting the need for additional cases.
  • A further participant suggests that the proof could be completed by considering cases where both integers are even or both are odd, providing detailed calculations for each case.
  • One participant agrees that the additional cases would complete the proof, while also introducing the concept of contrapositive reasoning as a potentially simpler approach.
  • Another participant reflects on a mathematical error in their previous proof, correcting the calculations related to the sum of two odd integers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of the initial proof or the sufficiency of the contrapositive approach. There is ongoing discussion about the completeness and correctness of the proofs presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of different parity combinations and the completeness of the proof structure. There are also unresolved mathematical steps in the corrections provided.

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Hello all I've been practicing proofs and would like to know if I'm on the right track. Here it is:

If the sum of 3x + 3y is an odd number then x and y are different parities.

Proof: Let x and y be two integers with opposite parity. Without loss of generality, suppose x is even and y is odd:

x = 2m
y = 2n + 1

Then:

3x + 3y = 3(2m) + 3(2n + 1) = 6m + 6n + 1 = 2(3m + 3n) + 1

Since 2(3m + 3n) has a factor of 2 it is even. When 1 is added, 2(3m + 3n) + 1 is odd. Therefore, 3x + 3y is odd and x and y have opposite parities.

Is this enough or do I need more?
 
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You've only proved that, if x and y are opposite parities, then 3x + 3y is odd. How do you know that it can't be odd in other circumstances?
 
So would I have to show two more cases: one where both were even and one where both were odd?
 
Something like this:

Assume x and y are of the same parity. Then we have two cases: (1) both are even, and (2) both are odd.
(1) Both are even; let:

x = 2a
y = 2b

3x + 3y = 3(2a) + 3(2b) = 2(3)(a+b)
Since there is a factor of 2 the sum is even.

(2) Both are odd; let:

x = 2a + 1
y = 2b + 1

3x + 3y = 3(2a+1) + 3(2b+1) = 6a + 3 + 6a + 3 = 12a + 6 = 6(2a) = 2(3)(2a)
Again, since there is a factor of 2 the sum is even.

Would this complete the proof?
 
That looks complete, yes.
For questions like these, it's useful to keep in mind the contrapositive: If x and y are not of different parities, then 3x + 3y is not odd (remember that an implication and its contrapositive mean the same thing; it's often easier to prove one than the other)
 
So, since my last post proves the statement by contrapositive, would the proof in my first post be unnecessary?
 
My math was wrong in my last proof in this line:

3x + 3y = 3(2a+1) + 3(2b+1) = 6a + 3 + 6a + 3 = 12a + 6 = 6(2a) = 2(3)(2a)

It should be:

3x + 3y = 3(2a+1) + 3(2b+1) = 6a + 3 + 6b + 3 = 6a + 6b + 6 = 6(a + b) = 2(3)(x + y)
 

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