If no singularity, what’s inside a big black hole?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of the interior of black holes, particularly in the context of theories that propose the elimination of singularities, such as string theory and loop quantum gravity. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding what might exist inside a stellar-sized black hole, including concepts like ultra-dense states of matter and quantum geometries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that theories like string theory and loop quantum gravity could eliminate black hole singularities, leading to new predictions about the black hole interior.
  • One participant references a paper indicating that the singularity may be replaced by a "bounce" where quantum effects become significant, with the extent of this region depending on initial conditions.
  • Another participant provides a list of published papers that discuss the black hole interior, emphasizing that many works focus on the implications of loop quantum gravity.
  • There is a proposal that the interior of black holes may consist of a dense "spacetime foam" or a breakdown of quantum geometry, surrounded by a Kantowski-Sachs vacuum solution.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the current understanding of black holes, suggesting that existing theories are preliminary and that geometry and matter may fundamentally be the same at extreme densities.
  • Another viewpoint is introduced regarding the "fuzzball" paradigm, which aims to address issues in traditional black hole physics.
  • A different perspective is mentioned, which claims to logically remove singularities from black holes and the universe, although this work is not peer-reviewed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of black hole interiors, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of a dense quantum state, while others emphasize the preliminary nature of current theories and the need for further exploration.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations in current understanding of black hole interiors, including unresolved mathematical steps and the dependence on various theoretical frameworks. The references provided suggest a breadth of research, but the interpretations and implications remain contested.

  • #181
Relativistic gravity is where space or the path of light is significantly curved. If you had a situation where radiation pressure was strong enough to counteract gravity, wouldn’t the path of light be random 3-axis thermal motion instead of a curved line?
 

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