If science is an imitation of nature, what is the helicopter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the relationship between science, technology, and nature, particularly in the context of helicopters and their potential natural counterparts. Participants consider whether science should imitate nature and discuss examples of natural phenomena that resemble human inventions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants wonder how helicopters work and if there are insects that fly similarly.
  • One participant questions the premise that science must always imitate nature, suggesting it often does but not necessarily needs to.
  • Another participant raises the question of what nature's versions of various human inventions, like bicycles and telephones, might be.
  • Some argue that engineering and technology are distinct from science, with the former focused on creating useful devices informed by scientific theories.
  • It is noted that while some technologies mimic natural processes, many do not directly copy nature due to inherent differences.
  • A participant introduces the concept of flagella as a biological example that operates similarly to a helicopter's rotor.
  • Examples of technology imitating nature are discussed, such as gecko-inspired sticky pads.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether science should imitate nature, with some supporting the idea and others questioning it. There is no consensus on the necessity of imitation in scientific practice.

Contextual Notes

Participants explore various examples and analogies, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of these comparisons and the definitions of science, technology, and nature.

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I was wondering today's how does the helicopter worked? Rotorcraft? I was wondering is their a bug that flys similar to the helicopter?
 
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dan020350 said:
... I was wondering is their a bug that flys similar to the helicopter?

How likely do you think that is.

As to your title, why should science be an imitation of nature? Granted it IS often, but is there any reason it NEEDS to all the time?
 
 
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What is nature's version of a bicycle? Or telephone? Or extension cord?
 
Hmm I see
 
leroyjenkens said:
What is nature's version of a bicycle? Or telephone? Or extension cord?

Lol... natures version of a bicycle is a tough one. I can show you a "close to" nature version of a unicycle, though.

Remember... I said 'close to"... :biggrin:




Or telephone?

Close again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_pigeon



Or extension cord?

So shockingly close it's stunning... lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_eel
 
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Looks like you might be confusing engineering and technology with science. Its easy to mix the concepts up... Science seeks to describe and predict our observations with theories. Engineering and technology seek to created useful devices and schemes which are often informed by scientific theories and sometimes inspired by natural or biological phenomenon.
 
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Some technologies actively try to mimic or take advantage of natural processes (see most of the world of biotech) but many do not. You could argue that we see capability in nature and try to invent a way of having the same capability (e.g. flight) but we rarely copy what occurs in nature because of obvious differences.
 
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I was wondering is their a bug that flys similar to the helicopter?

Look up "Flagellum"

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flagellum_base_diagram_en.svg

A flagellum (plural: flagella) is a long, slender projection from the cell body, whose function is to propel a unicellular or small multicellular organism. The depicted type of flagellum is found in bacteria such as E. coli and Salmonella, and rotates like a propeller when the bacterium swims.

Last paragraph of this link is as entertaining as the article is fascinating . Would paste it but when i try , it shows as a vertical column of individual letters.

http://www2.oakland.edu/oujournal/files/19_spermtail.pdf
 

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