If you could change a single historical event

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The discussion revolves around hypothetical changes to historical events and their potential impacts on the present. Some participants suggest deleting significant historical figures or events, such as Christianity, the Industrial Revolution, or the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, to prevent wars and societal issues. Others argue against making changes, emphasizing that humanity has learned from past injustices and improvements in ethics have emerged from these experiences. The conversation also touches on the unintended consequences of altering history, referencing the butterfly effect and the unpredictability of outcomes. There is a humorous exchange about the 1980s and a light-hearted debate on music and fashion from that era. The overall sentiment reflects a mix of nostalgia, skepticism about altering the past, and a recognition of the complexities of historical causation.
  • #31
I don't like messing with things I can't predict the outcome of. I don't think it'd be a good idea.
 
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  • #32
Does the extinction of the dinosaurs count as a historical event?
 
  • #33
Sure it does :P

Dino pets for everyone!

And I have no idea what religion would develop.
I seem to remember the Islam world was a center of learning in those early ages.

Though on the other hand you could say we are programmed to be religious(being all pattern-seeking, why-asking machines).
 
  • #34
martix said:
And I have no idea what religion would develop.
I seem to remember the Islam world was a center of learning in those early ages.
I would more blame collapse of Western Roman Empire, than Christianity. After all in the mean time there was quite civilized Byzantium while in barbaric Europe, monks were few literate people who copied some old books.

Though on the other hand you could say we are programmed to be religious(being all pattern-seeking, why-asking machines).
I would say, that there is such need in humans, and Christianity keeps incumbent effect.

I have doubts about appearance of Islam as we know it, Mohamed was somewhat inspired by Christianity, he accepted Jesus (Isa) as one of prophets.

If have to guess - there was a good chance to build a monotheistic religion, maybe a different one a while later

Even Judaism would look different, partially Talmud was written in some kind opposition towards Christianity.
 
  • #35
Even though the Op used religion as an example, let's stay away from religion as people tend to get upset if their beliefs are challenged.
 
  • #36
Evo said:
Even though the Op used religion as an example, let's stay away from religion as people tend to get upset if their beliefs are challenged.

VERY good idea.
My only contention is that all organized religion is obsolete by now.

P.s. I think the Dino idea was the most someone has gone back in time. And most people never even go back ealier than the 1900s.
I wonder if it's bacause they think they have a better idea of what will happen with recent-er events or it simply didn't occur to them there was history before that too. :P
 
  • #37
martix said:
P.s. I think the Dino idea was the most someone has gone back in time. And most people never even go back ealier than the 1900s.
I wonder if it's bacause they think they have a better idea of what will happen with recent-er events or it simply didn't occur to them there was history before that too. :P

Or perhaps most just don't care enough to really think about it since this isn't possible.
 
  • #38
The day, back in the middle ages, when islam scientists and philosophers stopped working because somebody decided to decret sciences the 'devil's work'... We could be traveling between galaxies by now if they continued working throughout the last 1000 years.
 
  • #39
martix said:
P.s. I think the Dino idea was the most someone has gone back in time. And most people never even go back ealier than the 1900s.
I wonder if it's bacause they think they have a better idea of what will happen with recent-er events or it simply didn't occur to them there was history before that too. :P
Perhaps because changing the Earth's environment before humans appeared might mean there never would be humans.
 

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