If you had ANY faith left in the goodwill of governments

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The discussion centers around a news story involving British marines in Iraq who allegedly shot at civilians while dressed in Middle Eastern attire during a covert operation. Participants explore the implications of this incident, questioning government actions and media coverage, and expressing skepticism about governmental transparency and motives.

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  • Some participants express disbelief over the actions of British marines, questioning why they were dressed as Arabs and why shooting at civilians was classified as a "special security task."
  • Others highlight the unusual nature of the incident, comparing it to a movie plot and suggesting it reflects broader issues of government misconduct.
  • Several participants note the lack of extensive media coverage, wondering why such incidents are not prominently reported.
  • Some contributions mention a general distrust in governments, particularly the U.S. and Britain, while others maintain some faith in other governments worldwide.
  • There are references to other controversial actions by governments, suggesting a pattern of unreported or underreported misconduct.
  • Disagreements arise regarding the portrayal of certain groups, such as the Minutemen, with differing views on their actions and media representation.

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Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the implications of the incident or the motivations behind government actions. There is significant disagreement on the characterization of various groups and the adequacy of media coverage.

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Participants reference multiple incidents and broader themes of governmental behavior and media reporting, indicating a complex landscape of opinions and assumptions that are not fully resolved within the discussion.

  • #61
Smurf said:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html

Oh my god that is pure gold.

"Gay groups had earlier protested against "the organised and forced harassment through female seductresses"

ROFL
 
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  • #62
TRCSF said:
I don't remember that. What did you say that was homophobic?

Was it about gay marriage?

I said that I don't think states should sanction marriages at all - that the government has no right to license people to love one another and commit to each other. You called that an even more cowardly brand of homophobia. Frankly, I find your brand of insulting people to dismiss them rather than engaging the issue rather cowardly.
 
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  • #63
Art said:
You mean as you have just done?? :biggrin:

Not at all. I did both.
 
  • #64
Smurf said:
You See! You see! That redish avatar! That hyperbolic attitude!

PURE EVIL I TELL YOU! PURE EVIL!

I like the upside down screaming girl avatar.
 
  • #65
loseyourname said:
I said that I don't think states should sanction marriages at all - that the government has no right to license people to love one another and commit to each other. You called that an even more cowardly brand of homophobia. Frankly, I find your brand of insulting people to dismiss them rather than engaging the issue rather cowardly.

And did you believe this before the gay marriage issue became a hot topic?
 
  • #66
TRCSF said:
And did you believe this before the gay marriage issue became a hot topic?

Did you ever come back to the thread? Of course I did, and I already said so! I also said that, as long as the state does sanction marriage, I think they should allow any two consenting adults to marry, regardless of anything. You just don't seem to really want to know these things. You'd rather make assumptions. I'm sorry if I'm reacting a little strongly to this, but I've been very active in the homosexual community for the last eight years or so and your comment angered me.
 
  • #67
I guess you'll never come back to this thread, either. Don't become another Rev Prez.
 

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