I'm a homesteader/prepper ask me anything

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The discussion revolves around the distinction between homesteading and survivalism, emphasizing a proactive, community-oriented approach rather than a fear-based mindset. Participants express a desire to thrive and prepare for various challenges, focusing on practical skills and self-sufficiency. There is a notable interest in the socio-economic aspects of prepping, with some members questioning whether this trend is predominantly American or present in other cultures. The conversation also touches on the importance of knowledge acquisition, with participants sharing their experiences and resources for learning essential skills. Overall, the thread highlights a commitment to a simpler, more sustainable lifestyle while addressing common misconceptions about preppers.
  • #61
Ftheog said:
I live in a rural new england town of 3000 people. It's not known what we have, just that we try and live self sustainable and garden and raise animals. We recognized the person, it was the town managers son who has a drug problem and has been arrested numerous times for breaking and entering. Let's be real here, people are getting shot for 10 dollars, you see that in the news all the time.
Is your video not enough to get him arrested for tresspassing? Or because of who's son he is, he's the town menace until something goes wrong.

Deinitely keep a low profile about what you have at home. I'd be more afraid of stupid teenagers and common crooks than any doomsday scenario.
 
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  • #62
Evo said:
Is your video not enough to get him arrested for tresspassing? Or because of who's son he is, he's the town menace until something goes wrong.

Deinitely keep a low profile about what you have at home. I'd be more afraid of stupid teenagers and common crooks than any doomsday scenario.

unfortunately no, the one spot he came through our property, there was not a posted sign, I'm talking like 40 foot span between signs, so all the police legally could do was give him a no trespass notice. My wife went and picked up signs the next day, we now have one like every 10 feet, sad you have to do that, isn't it? so much for rights of land ownership. So I confronted the 22 year old "kid" and told him for the safety of him and my family, stay off my property. I also communicated that to his father as well.
 
  • #63
Evo said:
People in South America tend to have a different mindset than Americans. If I lived there I'd probably think differently.

Basically, many of the people on this forum live close to the land if possible, just because they enjoy it and for no other reason.

Obviously college kids don't have that option. But those of us that are older and settled prefer to do things for ourselves, share with our neighbors, and help strangers in need, even if it means we have less for ourselves.

When I think back to WWII and all of the people that lost their lives to take in and protect complete strangers, it brings tears to my eyes. I don't know if I would ever have that much courage.

true, argentina was more european than american, I'm just using that as a example of what I think a concern might be
 
  • #64
wrong one
 
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  • #65
Ftheog said:
true, argentina was more european than american, I'm just using that as a example of what I think a concern might be
No, we have a member that is european and is currently in Argentina (or is it Venezuela), anyway both are backwards and much, much, much more violent than europe. Europe is less violent than the US.
 
  • #66
My wife came up with a truly brilliant strategy when we started talking about disaster scenarios.

I was busy thinking how we would fight the other 4 million people north out of the city and how we would defend our supplies.

She said, forget that. Go 300 yards *South* to the boat. Self-contained mobile house with all the supplies for living - and no traffic!

Any preppers think of a sailboat as the ideal stash?
 
  • #67
And tell me that those pigs are decorative. I almost died when the Beekman Boys decided to eat their pet pigs and showed them being shot between the eyes. :cry:

Pigs are intelligent, it would be like shooting a dolphin. :cry:

Of course anything that gets in turbo's way dies of lead poisoning, if you get my drift.
 
  • #68
DaveC426913 said:
My wife came up with a truly brilliant strategy when we started talking about disaster scenarios.

I was busy thinking how we would fight the other 4 million people north out of the city and how we would defend our supplies.

She said, forget that. Go 300 yards *South* to the boat. Self-contained mobile house with all the supplies for living - and no traffic!

Any preppers think of a sailboat as the ideal stash?


yep, quite a few, they also make great root cellars!

http://w3.gorge.net/dsines/BoatInAHole.htm"
 
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  • #69
Evo said:
And tell me that those pigs are decorative. I almost died when the Beekman Boys decided to eat their pet pigs and showed them being shot between the eyes. :cry:

Pigs are intelligent, it would be like shooting a dolphin. :cry:

Of course anything that gets in turbo's way dies of lead poisoning, if you get my drift.

nope, they are going down in the fall, they are great animals, I will miss them

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  • #70
That's nothing, the huge church fortress up the hill from me has helicopters!
 
  • #71
Ftheog said:
nope, they are going down in the fall, they are great animals, I will miss them

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NOOOOO! They're babies! :cry: I'll trade you twice their weight in fine preserved natural acorn fed pork. The stuff costs over $80 a pound and is said to be the finest in the world.

Ok, I'm kidding, but I wish I could afford to trade you for them. :frown:
 
  • #72
Evo said:
No, we have a member that is european and is currently in Argentina (or is it Venezuela), anyway both are backwards and much, much, much more violent than europe. Europe is less violent than the US.

Statistics can be construed many ways, what makes me chuckle when people blame violence in america because of gun ownership, I ask them if they can explain switzerland, they usually look confused,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
 
  • #73
Evo said:
NOOOOO! They're babies! :cry: I'll trade you twice their weight in fine preserved natural acorn fed pork. The stuff costs over $80 a pound and is said to be the finest in the world.

Ok, I'm kidding, but I wish I could afford to trade you for them. :frown:

they aren't babies

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that probably wasn't the right picture to post, was it
 
  • #74
Ftheog said:
Statistics can be construed many ways, what makes me chuckle when people blame violence in america because of gun ownership, I ask them if they can explain switzerland, they usually look confused,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
Shhhh, a large portion of our members are gun owners and experts. I don't want this to become another pro-gun thread.

Anyway, it's because military service is mandatory in Switzerland and the men must keep their guns after they finish service.
 
  • #75
Ftheog said:
they aren't babies

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that probably wasn't the right picture to post, was it
:cry: Wilbur!

They're all babies to me. <sniff>
 
  • #76
Evo said:
Shhhh, a large portion of our members are gun owners and experts. I don't want this to become another pro-gun thread.

Anyway, it's because military service is mandatory in Switzerland and the men must keep their guns after they finish service.

exactly, it's the culture, not gun ownership that creates the violence, I won't mention it again


(unless someone asks me what my preferred weapon of choice is :) )
 
  • #77
oh and I just want to put a disclaimer, I am not talking for everyone in the homesteading/prepper/survivalist lifestyle. I am just giving my experience and opinion
 
  • #78
Ftheog said:
oh and I just want to put a disclaimer, I am not talking for everyone in the homesteading/prepper/survivalist lifestyle. I am just giving my experience and opinion
Funny, a lot of people here know how to live off the land, have all of the basic survival skills, and then some. We've been this way all of our lives and could probably teach a trick or two to people that have been trying to learn what we already know.

Did you know that you don't have to add yeast to bread? There is enough natural yeast spores in the air that if you let the dough mix set out exposed to open air for a few days days that it will collect enough yeast to make yeast bread?

But I get the feeling that preppers are mainly into gathering and storing rather than knowing how to live off the land.
 
  • #79
yep, also can make great lambic the same way
 
  • #80
Evo said:
But I get the feeling that preppers are mainly into gathering and storing rather than knowing how to live off the land.

not at all, there two groups, people who try and buy their experience and people that build their experience, usually you start off as a buyer and slowly move into a builder, but for people that live in urban areas, they are usually stuck in the buying phase
 
  • #81
Evo said:
Funny, a lot of people here know how to live off the land, have all of the basic survival skills, and then some.
I confess, I am astonished at how many people here seem to live very close to the land.

I'd bet the folks over on that prepper board would be quite surprised.
 
  • #82
Ftheog said:
yep, also can make great lambic the same way
Have you seen our homemade beer thread?
 
  • #83
DaveC426913 said:
I confess, I am astonished at how many people here seem to live very close to the land.

I'd bet the folks over on that prepper board would be quite surprised.

I conveyed that to a lot of the other forums that linked to the original thread
 
  • #84
DaveC426913 said:
I confess, I am astonished at how many people here seem to live very close to the land.

I'd bet the folks over on that prepper board would be quite surprised.
Yeah, I was surprised too. We're a very well rounded group. Maybe it's our interest in science that makes us appreciate what is around us.
 
  • #85
Evo said:
Have you seen our homemade beer thread?

I perused some of it, I use to brew beer, but with all our strawberry, blackberry, raspberry, blueberry, grapes, apples, cherries, plums and peaches, I moved onto wines and meads, I made a killer strawberry/blackberry last summer.
 
  • #86
DaveC426913 said:
I confess, I am astonished at how many people here seem to live very close to the land.

Does stealing my neighbor's avocados count?
 
  • #87
Ftheog said:
I perused some of it, I use to brew beer, but with all our strawberry, blackberry, raspberry, blueberry, grapes, apples, cherries, plums and peaches, I moved onto wines and meads, I made a killer strawberry/blackberry last summer.
Sounds awesome, i remember making my first homemade wine when I was 12. I put a baloon over the bottle opening to capture the gas. My older girl friend was to blame. :p


Math Is Hard said:
Does stealing my neighbor's avocados count?
I hate you. :devil: I love avocados, but a $1-3 dollars each, I won't buy them. I want to go back to Sicily, even at christamas the lemon tress were loaded, anything you could imagine wanting was there for the taking.
 
  • #88
I'm hitting the hay, I just want to leave you guys with this comment from someone in the survivalist community, he sums up pretty well what a lot of us think, he also has a great blog for any Canadians on here, peace

"I don't mean to be so presumptious to think that I could as elegantly say what CH has said. There was something...I don't know...transcendent about that post. It just reverberates.

However, I would like to add my reasons for following a preparedness philosophy in my life. Maybe someone new to this way of thinking may find motivation in it. The stereotypical motivations of fighting the NWO or other things like that are so emotion based as to not be sustainable. But having a goal is sustaining. Well, without further ado...

Preparedness as a Retirement Plan

The concept of retirement is a relatively new one. Not so long ago, when we were a more agrarian based society, few people ever retired. Their daily duties just changed. As we grew older, we would take over running the farm, and then we would maybe step back and let our kids do that. Maybe we would take over maintenance of the equipment or something little less physically demanding, but required experience. Maybe we would help out more inside the home. But flat out retirement to travel south or play golf all day was the domain of the ultra rich. Even then, most tycoons were still wheeling and dealing well into their 60’s and beyond.

Nowadays. with retirement plans tanking and pension funds bleeding out, we may find ourselves without the ability to retire once again. However, this time, we won’t have the farm to feed us and the multi-generational home to keep us occupied and close to our loved ones. If we’re very fortunate, we may be able to find a spot in a retirement home and sell our current homes to pay for it.

Me, I have a different plan. My plan depends on me getting prepared to take care of myself and my wife for as long as we are physically able. If my plan works, we’ll also be able to ‘retire’ early. That plan is preparedness.

When you think about it, if you can provide most of your own food, utilities, and medicine and your shelter is bought and paid for, how much money do you really need? Enough to pay the property taxes, run your vehicle, and take care of emergencies. Maybe you need some money for a bit of travel as well. But not as much money as two people working for more than 40 hours a week each generate.

It’s not hard to imagine a household income of around $100,000 a year or about $73,000 after taxes. (Remember, I'm in Canada. Our dollars are about 80% of the USD.) Now, we know a lot of people are going to have mortgage payments around $1400 a month, utilities of at least $400 a month, TV and Internet for another $200 a month, $500 for food, $400 for various insurances, $200 for gas for the vehicles…it goes on and on.

So just the cost of living consumes $3100 of your after-tax income. Yearly, that’s about half of your income. If you can pay off your home, produce half of your utilities, drop the fancy TV package and step down a notch on the Internet access (that’s a tough one for me) and produce half of your food, you cut that outlay to about $1100 dollars a month. At that point, one of you can effectively retire. Or, the two of you can work half as much.

So what do you do with the extra 20-30 hours a week? Do the soul-building things like work your garden, love your spouse, split some wood, read books, start a business, whatever! Now, you are working for you. And should everything go for a poop, you are completely prepared to live comfortably and well with little to no income.

I find the thought of retiring to my homestead around the age of 50 to be a much more motivating and positive thought, than to think of prepping to cope with worldwide disaster. Disaster may never come, but time always marches on."
 
  • #89
Math Is Hard said:
Does stealing my neighbor's avocados count?
Poaching your neighbors' crows would count... Poaching them with glazed avocados and baby carrots with an orange-lemon glaze would bring you into the Maine need-to-marry-club. You might not even need an Evinrude Lightwin Three. I could get you hitched even without that, though most city-girls can't get over that bar.
 
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  • #90
If any major country suffers an event that destabilizes it to the point that people abandon their stations at the nuke plants and oil platforms, there won't be any place on Earth to hide.

If the prepping is for a lesser event, best advice is to leave the population centers because, 15 minutes after the last delivery truck brings it's last load of egg mcmuffins or fuel, all bets are off.