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The discussion revolves around the definition and scope of engineering, exploring various interpretations and roles within the field. Participants share their understandings, definitions, and examples of engineering, as well as the distinctions between different branches, including computer engineering.

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  • Some participants suggest that engineering encompasses a wide range of activities beyond just fixing machines, including design, analysis, and management roles.
  • One participant notes that the title of "engineer" can be applied loosely, with some individuals holding the title without formal qualifications.
  • Another perspective emphasizes engineering as the application of scientific principles and knowledge to solve practical problems, often within economic constraints.
  • A definition from ABET is shared, describing engineering as the application of mathematical and natural sciences to develop solutions for human needs.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of computer engineering as a branch of engineering, with some participants affirming its status as an engineering discipline distinct from computer science.
  • Humor is introduced with a light-hearted comparison of engineers to scientists, highlighting the financial aspect of the profession.

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Participants express a variety of definitions and perspectives on engineering, indicating that there is no single consensus on its meaning. Multiple competing views remain regarding the roles and qualifications associated with the title of engineer.

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Some definitions provided are ambiguous and may depend on context, such as the distinction between different types of engineers and the qualifications required for the title.

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What exactly is engineering. Before I thought it was just stuff like fixing machine's and things like that, but now I know I'm totally wrong with that conclusion.

A teacher at my school has a major in engineering, so I could ask him. but if you guys could help me out that would be great also :)
 
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A locomotive operator. have a look in wiki
 
Among other things, engineers typically design machines.
 
Engineers do a lot of different things. Engineers can be designers, analysts or managers. In other environments like in production facilities, engineers can design and oversee the production processes. There are a lot of "engineers" that really aren't, but their company gives them or they give themselves the title to make them seem more important. And sometimes, they can just be plain paper pushers. I know it sounds very vague, but the title really does encompass a lot of different positions.
 
As Fred mentioned, you have to take a close look at what a person actually does, and what his/her training is, to determine if that's the proper title. For instance, the 'Sanitation Engineer' who picks up your garbage every week probably doesn't have a degree from MIT.
 
My understanding of engineering is that it is a knowledge of basic applied physics. Stresses, momentum, hydraulics, mecahnics, heat exchange - etc etc. all the things that make the world we live in operate.

Engineers ensure that bridges can withstand stresses, that pistons in backhoes can lift tons of dirt, that buildings withstand winds, that breakwalls withstand waves, etc.
 
I've always liked this definition:

Someone who uses their imagination, scientific principles, and technical experience to solve a problem within economic constraints.

Obviously it's a bit ambiguous, but pretty much every product you see around you has been engineered.
 
Well, I guess when asking what engineering is, it's like asking how many colours of green there are, quite a lot :p

Thanks for the multiple definitions. And brewnog, I like your definition the most, it sounds philosophical to me :)
 
"Engineering is the profession in which a knowledge of the mathematical and natural sciences, gained by study, experience, and practice, is applied with judgement to develop ways utilize, economically, the materials and forces of nature for the benefit of mankind" As defined by ABET (the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology)
It can also be defined as an activity:
"An innovative and methodical appplication of scientific knowledge and technology to produce a device, system or process, which is intended to satisfy human need(s)"
 
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Do most of you consider computer engineering to be a valid branch of engineering?
 
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Yes, I consider Computer Engg - which is not Computer Science - to be an area of engineering. It too is an application of more fundamental sciences, namely Computer Science, Math and Physics.
 
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wScott said:
What exactly is engineering. Before I thought it was just stuff like fixing machine's and things like that, but now I know I'm totally wrong with that conclusion.

A teacher at my school has a major in engineering, so I could ask him. but if you guys could help me out that would be great also :)

Read this :
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=577714&postcount=7
 
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Engineers are like scientists, except they make money.
 

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