1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Homework Help: Image formed by lens-water-mirror system

  1. Apr 27, 2016 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    A symmetric, double-convex, thin lens made of glass with n = 1.52 has a focal length in air of 40 cm. The lens is sealed into the opening in the left-hand of a tank filled with water (n = 4/3). At the right-hand end of the tank is a plane mirror 90 cm from the lens. Find the position and lateral magnification of the image formed by the lens-water-mirror system of a small object outside the tank on the lens axis and 70 cm to the left of the lens.

    f=focal length=40cm,
    na=refractive index of air=1,
    ng=refractive index of glass=1.52,
    nw=refractive index of water=4/3,
    x=distance from lens to mirror=90cm,
    s1=object distance=70cm

    2. Relevant equations



    3. The attempt at a solution
    As the lens is symmetrical, R1=-R2
    ⇒ 1/f=(ng-na)(1/R1-1/R2)=(ng-na)(1/R1+1/R1)
    ⇒ 1/f=(ng-na)(2/R1)
    ⇒ R1=2f(ng-na)

    Using -s'1=s2





    And s3=x-s'2

    But this is where my friends and I get bogged down in where everything is supposed to be.
  2. jcsd
  3. Apr 27, 2016 #2


    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member
    2017 Award

    I suggest that you plug in numbers as you go so that you work out each step numerically. I know this goes against the general rule of working all the way to the end symbolically and then substituting numbers, but the algebra in this case is obviously getting out of hand. By plugging the numbers in as you go, you can also see if your answers are making sense as you go. This problem is a field of land mines in regard to signs.
  4. Apr 28, 2016 #3
    That's the line of thinking that we decided to go down in the end. And having done that, I decided to do the full algebraic expression for the final image and final magnification anyway, just to annoy the people marking it. I feel like Dr Frankenstein.
  5. Apr 28, 2016 #4


    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member
    2017 Award

Share this great discussion with others via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Draft saved Draft deleted