Find the refractive index for the lens and find the image distance

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The problem involves a thin lens with specified radii of curvature placed in an interface between air and water. The original poster seeks to calculate the refractive index of the lens material and the image distance for a distant object.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve for the refractive index and image distance but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their solution and whether they have missed any critical information.
  • Some participants confirm the original poster's work appears correct but suggest expressing the final answers in terms of the given variables.
  • Questions arise regarding the necessity of knowing the refractive index of water and whether the problem can be solved with only the refractive index of air.
  • Participants discuss the implications of expressing answers in terms of symbols rather than numerical values.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing supportive feedback on the original poster's attempts. There is a focus on ensuring the answers align with the expected format as per the instructor's requirements. Multiple interpretations regarding the use of refractive indices are being explored.

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No numerical values for the refractive indices are provided in the problem statement, leading to discussions about the necessity of expressing answers symbolically. The original poster's uncertainty about their solution indicates a lack of prior experience with similar problems.

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Homework Statement
A thin lens has an upper radius of curvature đť‘…1 and a lower radius of curvature đť‘…2. When the lens is completely surrounded by air, it has a focal distance đť‘“. The lens is then placed in the interface between air and water inside a vessel (see figure). Calculate the refractive index for the glass and the distance below the water surface on which the image of a distant object will end up?
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A thin lens has an upper radius of curvature đť‘…1 and a lower radius of curvature đť‘…2. When the lens is completely surrounded by air, it has a focal distance đť‘“. The lens is then placed in the interface between air and water inside a vessel (see figure). Calculate the refractive index for the glass and the distance below the water surface on which the image of a distant object will end up?
A thin lens has an upper radius of curvature đť‘…1 and a lower radius of curvature đť‘…2. When the lens is completely surrounded by air, it has a focal distance đť‘“. The lens is then placed in the interface between air and water inside a vessel (see figure). Calculate the refractive index for the glass and the distance below the water surface on which the image of a distant object will end up?

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The refractive index for water is given to nc = 1.33 and for air na = 1.00

My attempt:

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Is my solution correct? I have nowhere to check the answer and I have not done any similar problem before. Have I missed something?
 
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Your work looks good to me. But, they might want you to express the final answer in terms of the givens: ##f##, ##R_1##, ##R_2##, ##n_{air}##, and ##n_{water}##.
 
TSny said:
Your work looks good to me. But, they might want you to express the final answer in terms of the givens: ##f##, ##R_1##, ##R_2##, ##n_{air}##, and ##n_{water}##.
I assumed the refractive index for water was given because I could not solve the problem without it. Can the problem be solved if one only knows the refractive index for air?
 
Karl Karlsson said:
I assumed the refractive index for water was given because I could not solve the problem without it. Can the problem be solved if one only knows the refractive index for air?
You can assume ##n_{water}## to be known. But since no numerical values are given in the statement of the problem, I don't think you will need to use a particular value for ##n_{water}##.

I think they want you to express your answers in terms of the symbol ##n_{water}## as well as the given symbols ##R_1##, ##R_2##, and ##f##. Here, ##f## is the focal length with air on both sides of the lens.

For the first question, you found the index of refraction of the glass in terms of these symbols and it looks right.

Your answer to the second question also looks correct to me. But I was wondering if you are expected to express your answer in terms of only the "given" symbols ##R_1##, ##R_2##, and ##f## (as well as ##n_{water}##). It could be that the way you expressed the answer is completely adequate. It depends on your instructor.
 
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