Immortality: Stop DNA Aging or Swapping Consciousness?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of achieving immortality through two proposed methods: stopping DNA aging and swapping consciousness. Participants explore the potential of these approaches within the next decade, considering current advancements in supercomputing, DNA decoding, and brain mapping.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the likelihood of achieving either method within the next decade, suggesting that both may be unrealistic.
  • One participant notes that understanding the nature of consciousness is crucial before considering its mobilization, expressing skepticism about finding satisfactory answers soon.
  • Another participant highlights the complexity of DNA aging, mentioning that factors like protein aggregation and nutrient sensing also play significant roles in aging, beyond just DNA changes.
  • There is a discussion about the ethical implications of using artificial methods to grow bodies for consciousness transfer, referencing a fictional scenario for context.
  • Some participants express interest in the computational aspects of gene prediction and how advancements in supercomputing could impact our understanding of DNA and its relation to diseases like Alzheimer’s.
  • One participant emphasizes the speculative nature of immortality and mind uploading, suggesting that such topics may not align with the forum's focus on established science.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the feasibility of achieving immortality through the discussed methods within the next decade. Multiple competing views remain regarding the potential of DNA aging and consciousness swapping, with no consensus reached on either approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topics, including the interplay of various biological factors in aging and the ethical considerations surrounding consciousness transfer. There is also a recognition of the speculative nature of the discussion, particularly regarding the application of these concepts to human immortality.

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I know there are similar threads regarding the topics above, but which method do you think is more achievable within the next decade? With the current ways of supercomputer and computing in decoding DNA as well as brain mapping, it might be a possible reality in the future.
 
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Next decade? Neither...
 
To know whether it's even possible to mobilize consciousness, we'd have to understand more about what it even is, physically. I don't think you're going to find any satisfactory answers in that regard, probably not in the next decade either.

There is research investigating some aspects of "bilogical immortality" and there's probably somebody on this board that could say a thing or two about it, but any kind of immortality that can be applied to humans is approaching 0 probability in the next decade.
 
With the current way of supercomputer research we are getting an idea of how mind works as well as getting better at decoding DNA strands. So when is it that we will really cross the line and say that such a thing is doable? I suppose someone with a knowledge on supercomputer and DNA decode could give us more insight, my understanding of DNA is simply at the base level,A,C,T,G. How does those become a pattern with a chain of protein and decode genetic disease such as Alzheimer? How would this help us stop the aging process? As for swapping consciousness a lab grown body will have to be prepared with the same memory and plasticity. Such a thing still meets ethical problem as to using artificial uterus and ectogenesis to grow a human and to prevent the consciousness from developing and transfer the outside consciousness in similar to the movie Selfless. Both of these are pretty big topic. I am just getting some ideas here and there.

P.S. Here's an idea about DNA and supercomputer http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/14/5308350/new-dna-supercomputer-promises-radically-cheaper-genome-tests
How would a sure fire way to identify genome and their functions be constructed?
 
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With regard to the "DNA aging" side, although changes to our DNA (such as mutation, telomere degradation, and epigenetic changes) certainly contribute to aging, other factors unrelated to DNA contribute as well such as protein aggregation (e.g. in various neurological diseases like Alzheimer's) and changes in nutrient sensing (e.g. as in type II diabetes). These are examples of phenomena related to aging that do not necessarily involve changes at the DNA level.
 
Immortality and mind uploading are far too speculative for this forum. This forum is for the discussion and teaching of established science.
 

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