MHB Improper Integral: Definition and Evaluation

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The discussion centers on evaluating the convergence of the series L = ∑ ln(n+1)/(n+1) using the Ratio Test. Initial calculations suggest L converges since the limit approaches 0, but further analysis reveals that the Ratio Test is inconclusive due to the limit equating to 1. Participants suggest using the Integral Test instead, leading to the conclusion that the series diverges, as the improper integral diverges to infinity. The conversation highlights confusion over the appropriate test for convergence and emphasizes the importance of correctly applying these mathematical concepts.
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316 Ratio Test

$\tiny{11.6.(4) } $
$$L=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\dfrac{\ln(n+1)}{n+1} $$
using the Ratio Test
$$L=\displaystyle\lim_{n \to \infty}
\left|\dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}\right|
=\lim_{n \to \infty}\dfrac{\ln((n+1)+1)}{((n+1)+1)}
=\lim_{n \to \infty}\dfrac{\ln((n+2)}{n+2}=0$$
thus $L<1$ convergent

Ok I think this is correct but the final limit I did via W|A not sure why it is 0
 
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What you have is only the limit of [math]a_{n+1}[/math]! You haven't done the fraction, [math]\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}=[/math][math] \frac{ln(n+1)}{n+1}\frac{n+2}{ln(n+2)}=[/math][math] \left(\frac{n+2}{n+1}\right)\left(\frac{ln(n+1)}{ln(n+2)}\right)[/math].

What are the limits of those fractions?
 
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for $n \ge 1$, $\bigg| \dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \bigg| = \dfrac{\ln(n+2)}{n+2} \cdot \dfrac{n+1}{\ln(n+1)} = \dfrac{\ln(n+2)}{\ln(n+1)} \cdot \dfrac{n+1}{n+2}$

Methinks you'll find the ratio test to be inconclusive ... did you decide to use the ratio test to determine convergence/divergence of this sum?

I would use the integral test ...
 
so its $\dfrac{1}{2}$ which is still $L<1$
 
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karush said:
so its $\dfrac{1}{2}$ which is still $L<1$

How did you arrive at 1/2 ?

Did you read my response? When is the ratio test inconclusive?
 
skeeter said:
How did you arrive at 1/2 ?

Did you read my response? When is the ratio test inconclusive?
$$\lim _{x\to \infty \:}\left(\frac{\ln \left(x+2\right)}{\ln \left(x+1\right)}\cdot \frac{x+1}{x+2}\right)=1$$

it's inconclusive

not sure why we were asked to use Ratio test thot that was used with radicals
 
integral test ...

$\displaystyle \int_1^\infty \ln(x+1) \cdot \dfrac{1}{x+1} \,dx$

$u = \ln(x+1) \implies du = \dfrac{dx}{x+1}$

$\displaystyle \int_{\ln(2)}^\infty u \,du$

$\displaystyle \lim_{b \to \infty} \int_{\ln(2)}^b u \, du$

$\displaystyle \lim_{b \to \infty} \bigg[\dfrac{u^2}{2}\bigg]_{\ln(2)}^b$

$\displaystyle \lim_{b \to \infty} \dfrac{b^2 - \ln^2(2)}{2} = \infty$

series diverges
 
why did you b??
 
karush said:
why did you b??

correct format for an improper integral