Impulse and momentum of two particles

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The problem involves two particles with given masses that collide after one is given an initial impulse. The focus is on calculating the impulse exerted on one particle during the collision, with specific attention to the change in momentum before and after the event.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of impulse using the change in momentum formula, with one participant expressing confusion over the sign of the impulse. Others clarify that the magnitude of impulse is required, leading to questions about the meaning of negative impulse and its implications regarding direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the concept of impulse and its directional significance. Clarifications about the absolute value of impulse and its relation to the forces involved in the collision have been provided, but no consensus on the broader implications of negative impulse has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the problem's setup, including the definitions of positive and negative impulse in relation to the chosen coordinate system. There is an emphasis on understanding the physical meaning behind the calculations rather than just obtaining a numerical answer.

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Homework Statement



Two particles have mass 0.12kg and 0.08kg respectively. They are intially at rest on a smooth horizontal table. Particle A is then given an impulse in the direction AB so that it moves with speed 3m/s directly towards B.

Immediately after the particles collide the speed of A is 1.2m/s, its direction of motion being unchanged.

(c) find the magnitude of the impulse exerted on A in the collision.

Homework Equations



impulse = change in momentum (mv-mu)

The Attempt at a Solution



(c)

I get

impulse = mv-mu
= (0.12 x 1.2) - (0.12 x 3)
= - 0.216 Ns


But the mark scheme said the answer is + 0.216 Ns ... how can this be if the velocity after is less than the velocity before, i don't understand why??
 
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Hi Pagey,

They asked for the magnitude of the impulse so they just need the absolute value.
 
O so the maths is right. Ok it makes sense now, cheers!
 
What is a negaitve impulse then, what does the - 0.216 mean? why is the answer negative (ingorning the fact it asks for magnitude)?
 
Pagey said:
What is a negaitve impulse then, what does the - 0.216 mean? why is the answer negative (ingorning the fact it asks for magnitude)?

B consumed that momentum.
 
The negative sign in the impulse indicates direction. The direction of the impulse is the same direction as the average net force during the collision.

So you called the velocities of particle A positive (they are both in the same direction in this problem). That set your coordinate system so that positive direction is in the direction of the velocities of A. But if A is slowing down, which direction is the average force on it? It is in the opposite direction of the velocities, and so since you already called the velocites positive, the average force and therefore the momentum must be negative.

(If particle A was moving to the right, then it needs a force to the left to slow it down.)
 

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