Impulse and step response related to the angular position of a spacecraft

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between step and impulse responses and the angular position of a spacecraft. Participants explore the theoretical aspects of how these responses affect spacecraft orientation control, particularly in the context of disturbances and corrections.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the theoretical relationship between step and impulse responses and angular position in spacecraft, particularly in relation to MATLAB plots.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the system's response to impulse and step inputs to avoid incorrect corrections that could lead to exponential divergence or oscillation.
  • It is noted that for a spacecraft's orientation change, any impulse must be countered with an equal impulse in the opposite direction to stop rotation.
  • A further contribution suggests that stopping rotation involves canceling the disturbance impulse, but returning to a desired orientation may introduce oscillatory behavior.
  • One participant describes the typical process of adjusting a satellite's orientation and the use of impulses to correct drift, as well as the necessity of multiple impulses for orbital changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of impulse and step responses in controlling spacecraft orientation, but there are varying perspectives on the implications of these responses and the complexities involved in achieving desired orientations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of impulse responses and their effects on spacecraft dynamics, but these assumptions are not fully explored or defined, leaving some aspects unresolved.

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Hi!

I don't know if I'm in the right forum of this site but I'm trying anyway. I was just wondering if someone could explain how the step- and impulse response is related to an angular position (of e.g. a spacecraft )? Just a little about the theory since I am trying to actually understand how/why my MATLAB plots and the results are related to this subject.

Thanks!
 
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It is important when trying to control something like the angular position (i.e. orientation). Its response to an impulse or step input shows how it will respond to any disturbance or frequency input. Obviously, when you try to correct an error, you do not want to push it in the wrong direction. That would just cause it to go off exponentially. Just as important is that you don't want to be too slow and then overdo it. That would cause it to oscillate back and forth. To analyse which frequencies of oscillation will die out and which will grow (diverge), it is necessary to know how the system responds to every frequency. Any divergent frequency is bad unless it is so slow that it is easy to control in other ways.
 
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FactChecker said:
It is important when trying to control something like the angular position (i.e. orientation). Its response to an impulse or step input shows how it will respond to any disturbance or frequency input. Obviously, when you try to correct an error, you do not want to push it in the wrong direction. That would just cause it to go off exponentially. Just as important is that you don't want to be too slow and then overdo it. That would cause it to oscillate back and forth. To analyse which frequencies of oscillation will die out and which will grow (diverge), it is necessary to know how the system responds to every frequency. Any divergent frequency is bad unless it is so slow that it is easy to control in other ways.
Thanks buddy!
 
For a spacecraft orientation change or rotation, as opposed to a change in velocity or direction of travel, any impulse force-time sum in one direction must be countered with an equal impulse force-time sum in the opposite direction in order to arrest the imposed rotation of the craft.
 
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JBA said:
For a spacecraft orientation change or rotation, as opposed to a change in velocity or direction of travel, any impulse force-time sum in one direction must be countered with an equal impulse force-time sum in the opposite direction in order to arrest the imposed rotation of the craft.
Good point. I guess that stopping the rotation would boil down to just canceling the disturbance impulse because there is no aerodynamics to mess it up. Unless you want to get it back to some particular orientation, the problem would be solved. Getting it back to a desired orientation would reintroduce the threat of oscillatory control behavior.
 
The orientation of a satellite is usually adjusted so it points it's antennas towards the Earth while pointing it's solar panels towards the Sun. Under normal conditions the satellite rotates about it's centre of mass at a fixed rate that maintains those orientation directions. As an axis orientation or rotation rate error begins to accumulate, and so becomes apparent, a short correction impulse is applied to correct the drift of rotation. Over time that impulse will accumulate to bring the satellite back towards the required orientation.

Satellites move in elliptical orbits. To change position from an old orbit to a new orbit, two impulses are usually required. An intermediate elliptical orbit is used that intersects both the old and then the new orbit. The first impulse transfers it from the old orbit to the intermediate orbit, the second impulse, applied at the appropriate time, takes it onto the final required new orbit.
 
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Thank you for explaining, now I understand. Cheers!
 

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