Impulse reponse from step response

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between step response and impulse response in the context of a homework problem. Participants explore the mathematical differentiation of step responses to derive impulse responses, focusing on the application of the product rule and specific coefficients in the equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the derivative of the step response is the impulse response and questions the origin of a specific coefficient in their solution.
  • Another participant asks whether the product rule is necessary when differentiating these functions, expressing uncertainty due to a lack of recent experience with the topic.
  • Some participants propose that the product rule does apply in this context, with one confirming that using it yields the correct answer.
  • A later reply mentions that previous examples did not include unit step functions or delta functions, suggesting a difference in approach or context.
  • One participant shifts the focus to a different question related to Fourier transforms, indicating a need for assistance with exam preparation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the applicability of the product rule in differentiating step responses, but there is no consensus on the specific coefficients or the handling of unit step and delta functions in their examples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the original homework question.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include potential missing assumptions about the functions involved and the specific context of the examples referenced by participants. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary to derive the impulse response fully.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Derivative of step response is impulse response

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I marked A cause it matches the other coefficients. But where does 9 come from in the last term.
I tried with laplace and got the last term as 9. But how to get that in time domain with differentiation?
 

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Do you need to use the product rule when you differentiate these functions? I am not sure if you do - because it's been a long time since I've done these step and impulse response problems.
 
I would think that the product rule still applies here.
 
Oh yes. I get the right answer if I use the product rule. In solved examples there wasn't any u(t) or δ(t).
Thanks.
 

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