Impulse momentum theorum with a spring

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a 700 g air-track glider colliding with a spring, focusing on determining the duration of contact between the glider and the spring. The context involves concepts from the impulse-momentum theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of contact time using the impulse-momentum theorem, questioning the accuracy of the force and the conversion of mass from grams to kilograms. There are attempts to clarify the use of average force versus peak force in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on necessary conversions and the distinction between average and peak forces. Others express confusion regarding the calculations and the implications of momentum change, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the change in momentum when the initial and final speeds are equal, as well as the need to clarify the correct equations to use in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A 700 g air-track glider collides with a spring at one end of the track. The figure shows the glider's velocity and the force exerted on the glider by the spring.

How long is the glider in contact with the spring?

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Homework Equations



F(t_1-t_2)=mv_2-mv_1

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the force as 36N, v_1 as -3, v_2 as 3.
When I plug this into the equation I get
change in t = (700*3-700*(-3))/36=116.6

I know this has to be wrong but I'm confused which variable I have wrong. Maybe the force?
 
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You need to convert 700 g to kg. Other than that, I think your solution is correct.
 
change in t = ((.7*3)-(.7*-3))/36 = .116 s is also wrong.
 
Sorry, you need to use the average force. The 36 N is the peak force.
 
I'm still stuck on this one. I know that i can calculate avg force by impulse / change in time, but I'm not sure how to find avg force in this situation.
 
In case anyone else has a similar problem I'll explain how I found the answer. I found the area of the triangle with. A = .5 * (36, force max) * change in t. A is equal to weight in kg * v_1 - (weight in kg * v_2). Therefore 4.2 = .5 (36) * change in t.
 
powerofsamson said:
In case anyone else has a similar problem I'll explain how I found the answer. I found the area of the triangle with. A = .5 * (36, force max) * change in t. A is equal to weight in kg * v_1 - (weight in kg * v_2). Therefore 4.2 = .5 (36) * change in t.

I know this is an old message but this poster states he solved the problem by finding.

(simply restating correct solution posted in quotes here)

A=area

A=.5(Fmax)Δt

A=mv1-mv2

I think? I don't understand what equations the poster was trying to write out.

Wouldn't the change in momentum be zero since the final and initial speeds are equal?

Or would it be double the current momentum because of the change in direction?
 

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