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[Gokul43201]

That ad reinforces my view that there exists a significant wing of the Tea Party that promotes this idea that elected government officials ought to be no more educated than the average citizen (who, by the way, does not have a college degree), and bring no more refined ideas to solving problems than the average Joe/Jane is likely to come up with.

 

[airborne18]

This is classic stuff - "I'm not a witch". Well, given the history of New England, I'll reserve judgement!

As Bill Maher said, when you have to start a political ad by stating that you're not a witch, your message has already failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxJyPsmEask

Her message and campaign has succeeded beyond her wildest dreams. She has enough money to live on and has new career in commentating until she runs again.

She never expected to win against castle, and never expected to get all of this money from out of state. She won the lottery.

 

[mheslep]

That ad reinforces my view that there exists a significant wing of the Tea Party that promotes this idea that elected government officials ought to be no more educated than the average citizen

That's a dumb ad, an ill-thought out approach by O'donnell. Would you have a similar opinion if I posted similarly clueless ads/statements by candidates and sitting politicians in the Democratic party (e.g. island of Guam at risk of http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize" from overpopulation)?

(who, by the way, does not have a college degree),

Wrong link? Yes she does.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41750.html

Scott Giglio, assistant director of public relations at the Madison, N.J., university, told POLITICO the Tea Party Express-backed Senate hopeful was officially awarded her bachelor of arts degree in English literature on Wednesday.

 

[Gokul43201]

That's a dumb ad, an ill-thought out approach by O'donnell.

I'm not criticizing the ad itself. And while I couldn't care less about the 'witch' part, I did find the rest of it more or less along the lines of her campaign speeches. This 'common sense' theme is not a one-time faux pas by O'Donnell; it's either an oft repeated principle with her, or is something she is being actively branded with by her supporters ... to the extent that she has now acquired the moniker of the "Common Sense Conservative".





http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20016841-503544.html...etc.

Would you have a similar opinion if I posted similarly clueless ads/statements by candidates and sitting politicians in the Democratic party (e.g. island of Guam at risk of http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize" from overpopulation)?

If it was part of a pattern like I've shown above and in previous posts, then yes, I'd have a similar opinion, to the extent that the pattern is similar. Besides, if you think I support Hank Johnson's re-election (not sure if he's running again) - mentally debilitating Hepatitis C or not - you'd be way off.

Wrong link? Yes she does.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41750.html

Ugh! Have I become totally incomprehensible? I was referring to the education of "the average citizen", not O'Donnell.

 

[nismaratwork]

Her message and campaign has succeeded beyond her wildest dreams. She has enough money to live on and has new career in commentating until she runs again.

She never expected to win against castle, and never expected to get all of this money from out of state. She won the lottery.

Ah yes... I nearly forgot that was the real point of civil service these days.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

There was one line from a comedian that had me laughing out loud. It may have been Maher... ~ "When O'Donnell toyed with witchcraft over twenty years ago, she never thought it would actually work!"

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Another good one: Jack Cafferty, on CNN, asked viewers for questions to be asked of O'Donnell at the debate tonight.

Are you a good witch, or a bad witch?

 

[airborne18]

I actually had the chance to get a video taped question into that debate. But it involved getting my daughter at UofD to go and video tape it. They were at their deadline and my daughters engineering schedule was tight.

I called them last week because I felt nobody would ask a question relating to veterans. So they were going to let my kid do it.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Egad, I watched as much as I could stand. It was predictably embarrassing. O'Donnell was way out of her league.

 

[nismaratwork]

Egad, I watched as much as I could stand. It was predictably embarrassing. O'Donnell was way out of her league.

I hope beyond anything I can express that O'Donnel is a rare enough creature that she could never have league. Please god... please.

 

[airborne18]

I think she peaked a few weeks ago, and the debate might have hurt her among her core.

My wife mentioned that the gung ho O'donnell people at her work are starting to figure out she is an idiot. a lot of unhappy faces after the debate.

I think it might be in part that she peaked at the primary. But she has been laying low and I think that is hurting her.

 

[MATLABdude]

It's Poe's Law in action:

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be (from satire site, the Onion):
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

O'Donnell questions separation of church and state (from debate held this morning):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101019/ap_on_el_se/us_delaware_senate

Video Goodness (courtesy of somebody at Fark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg#t=2m30s

 

[Ivan Seeking]

It's Poe's Law in action:

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be (from satire site, the Onion):
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

O'Donnell questions separation of church and state (from debate held this morning):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101019/ap_on_el_se/us_delaware_senate

Video Goodness (courtesy of somebody at Fark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg#t=2m30s

"Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and State?" I loved how the audience roared when she said it.

Also in the news

"Christine O'Donnell is making a mockery of running for public office," Meghan McCain said of her father's fellow Republican, who recently ran an ad declaring, "I'm not a witch."

Appearing on ABC's "This Week," McCain said O'Donnell "has no real history, no real success in any kind of business."

"And what that sends to my generation is (the message that) one day, you can just wake up and run for Senate, no matter how lack of experience you have," said McCain, 26, author of the new book, "Dirty Sexy Politics."...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69G19Y20101017

So far, it seems to me that Meghan is a promising symbol of the real future of the Republican party. At the least, I have liked a lot of what she has said in the past.

 

[inflector]

Video Goodness (courtesy of somebody at Fark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg#t=2m30s

The look of disbelief on her face and the tone of her voice after she realized that just maybe she was wrong and that the first amendment did mandate that "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" might actually have been in the constitution was priceless.

She was at a law school so you know virtually everyone in the audience knew the first amendment by heart or could at least paraphrase.

She's toast. For someone who claims to hold the Constitution so dear to have not known what the first amendment says won't help her cause even among her base.

 

[mheslep]

The look of disbelief on her face and the tone of her voice after she realized that just maybe she was wrong and that the first amendment did mandate that "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" might actually have been in the constitution was priceless.

Where did she deny the establishment clause?

 

[inflector]

Where did she deny the establishment clause?

It's about 7:02 into the video I quoted.

She doubted that the constitution mandated a separation between church and state, not the establishment clause directly but when Coons paraphrased, she said something like: "That's in the constitution?" to great laughter among the audience of future lawyers.

[EDIT: See: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/10/separation-of-church-and-state.html for a transcript of the words in question.]

 

[MATLABdude]

The look of disbelief on her face and the tone of her voice after she realized that just maybe she was wrong and that the first amendment did mandate that "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" might actually have been in the constitution was priceless.

She was at a law school so you know virtually everyone in the audience knew the first amendment by heart or could at least paraphrase.

She's toast. For someone who claims to hold the Constitution so dear to have not known what the first amendment says won't help her cause even among her base.

Although I watched that on my iPhone (3GS without the magical Retina Display that my eyes probably wouldn't be able to handle anyway), I thought she had the self-satisfied "See, these people laughed at my witty rebuttal and/or dazzling brilliance!" instead of the the gasps of incredulity and laughs of "Is she serious?" that I believe them to have. But what do I know?

Maybe she's such a constitutional scholar that she knows the phrase "Separation of State and Church" is not in the First Amendment. We already know that she's not necessarily up to date on the Supreme Court and might not be knowledgeable of that's body consistent support and upholding of this understanding.

EDIT: maybe it's just that beatific smile and slightly glazed-over look that she always seems to have--that freaked me out the first few times I saw it.

 

[Gokul43201]

Where did she deny the establishment clause?

She specifically questions the establishment clause at least twice, at 6:10 and 7:15.

Approximation of those exchanges:

Coons: "The first amendment requires that the federal government shall not establish any religion" [okay, he's a little off]

O'Donnell: "The First Amendment does?" <incredulous expression>

 

[Ivan Seeking]

O'Donnell: "The First Amendment does?" <incredulous expression>

Yay, the great defender of the Constitution! Take note tea partiers, another paper tiger and a Sarah Palin favorite. Just who and what are you supporting?

Today on John King, her latest blunder was considered. When asked about the 14th and 16th amendments, O'Donnell had to ask what they are.

John King asked if it is fair to expect O'Donnell to know the Constitution by heart? He then played another clip of her citing her expertise in Constitutional Law. The clips should be up shortly.

 

[edward]

What is really hurting Democrats here, and I suppose other states. is the constant running of negative ads produced by special interests in other states.

[Youtube]uBGKxjdsUUQ


No man In AZ would be caught dead in yellow bib overalls, although he might be found dead in yellow bib overalls.


They attack anyone running against a Tea Party candidate. The tea Party jerk we have running here in AZ District 8 is a college freshman drop out originally from Montana.

Democrat Giffords has a masters degree, she is married to an astronaut, has twice been elected to congress.

So far Giffords is behind in the polls.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Well, not John King, but Anderson Cooper covers the same material wrt the 14th and 16th amendments, and O'Donnell's claim to be an expert.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2010/10/20/ac.odonnell.constitution.gaffe.cnn