In what sense is the Higgs expected to be discovered

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The discussion centers on the expected discovery of the Higgs particle at the LHC, exploring the nature of the Higgs field, its vacuum expectation value, and the implications for the mass of the Higgs boson.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

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  • One participant questions the meaning of the expected mass of the Higgs boson, suggesting it may relate to an excited state of the Higgs field.
  • Another participant clarifies that the Higgs field is not an excited state but rather a degree of freedom in the classical vacuum state that breaks electroweak symmetry, providing a detailed explanation of the Higgs field's structure and its relation to gauge bosons.
  • A later reply acknowledges the clarification but also states that the Higgs boson can be considered an excited state of the Higgs field.

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The discussion contains differing views on whether the Higgs boson is an excited state of the Higgs field, with some participants asserting it is not, while others suggest it can be viewed as such. No consensus is reached.

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Participants reference concepts such as vacuum expectation value, electroweak symmetry breaking, and the structure of the Higgs field, which may require further elaboration for clarity.

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In what sense is the higgs particle expected to be discovered at the LHC?
I mean, the Higgs field has a non-vanishing vacuum expectation value, so it costs no energy to absorb or emit a higgs boson.Hence what is meant when saying that the expected mass is about 126 GeV?
I suppose one is looking for some excited state or something?
 
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It's not an excited state. The physical Higgs field is the degree of freedom as seen in the classical vacuum state that breaks the electroweak symmetry. The [itex]SU(2)[/itex] doublet [itex]H[/itex] is an expansion around the false vacuum at [itex]\langle H \rangle =0[/itex]. The true vacuum is an expansion around [itex]\langle H^0\rangle =\upsilon[/itex], for which we write

[tex]H = \begin{pmatrix} H^+ \\ \upsilon + h \end{pmatrix}.[/tex]

[itex]H^\pm[/itex] are the degree of freedom that gets "eaten" to generate mass for the EW gauge bosons, while [itex]h[/itex] is the massive Higgs scalar being investigated. The mass of [itex]h[/itex] is set in terms of the parameters of the Higgs potential once you expand using the parametrization above.
 
Ok, I see. Thank you!
 
In other words, yes the Higgs boson is an excited state of the Higgs field.
 

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