Inclined plane, finding normal force

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 1160 kg car on a frictionless inclined plane, supported by a cable at an angle. Participants are tasked with finding the normal force and the tension in the cable.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the tension using gravitational force components but struggles with the normal force. Some participants question the relationship between the weight of the car and the tension in the cable.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the normal force, with some providing insights into the forces acting on the car. There is a recognition of the tension's role in the vertical force balance, and one participant arrives at a value close to the expected answer.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of forces acting on the car, particularly the influence of tension and the angle of the incline. The expected answer for the normal force is noted, but the reasoning behind it remains under exploration.

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Homework Statement


A 1160 kg car is held in place by a light cable on a very smooth (frictionless) ramp, as shown in the figure . The cable makes an angle of 31.0 degrees above the surface of the ramp, and the ramp itself rises at 25.0 degrees above the horizontal.

Find the normal force along with the tension of the cable.

Homework Equations


Fnormal = M*A

The Attempt at a Solution


I've found the tension by taking the mass X 9.8sin(25), then taking that divided by cos(31) which gave me a tension of ~5610

However, I don't know how to go about finding the normal force
 
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Ok, I understand that in essence, the Normal Force is going to be

Fnorm= m * a(cos theta), in this case, the theta is 25 degrees, and the mass is 1160 kg.

So:

Fnorm = 1160 * 9.8(cos(25)) = 10302.91 N

That's all fine and well, except that the answer is suppose to be 7410 N. I believe it has something to do with the relationship of the weight of the car compared to the tension, and if it's not that, then I'm completely baffled =(
 
Alright, just had an epiphany. The tension is, indeed, a force in the Y direction.

So here's what I came out with:

F(up) + F(tension in the y direction) - F(down) = 0

So, F(up/normal force) = F(down) - F(tension in the y direction)

Fnorm = 1160(cos(25)) - (5610(sin(31)) = 7413.55

That number is right around the correct answer that it gave me of 7410 N.

Appreciate all the help guys!
 

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