Increase of Uncertainty over Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the increase of uncertainty in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the variance of the wave function over time and its relationship to Gaussian wave packets. Participants explore the mathematical representation of this phenomenon and the conditions affecting wave packet evolution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the increase in the variance of the wave function over time is proportional to (1+t^2)1/2.
  • Others inquire whether this pertains to a specific form of Gaussian wave packet.
  • It is suggested that the exact form of the variance includes additional constants, as noted by another participant.
  • Some participants clarify that not all wave packets evolve in the same manner, emphasizing that the temporal behavior depends on the wave packet's form and the presence of potential fields.
  • There is a distinction made between wave packets in free space and those in varying potentials, with implications for how the momentum basis wavefunction behaves over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of wave packet evolution, indicating that multiple competing models and interpretations remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the exact conditions under which the variance increases, including dependencies on definitions and the specific forms of wave packets involved.

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Looking at the literature it appears that the increase in the variance of the wave function over time is proportional to (1+t^2)1/2. Is that right?
 
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Are you talking about certain form of Gaussian wavepacket?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Are you talking about certain form of Gaussian wavepacket?

I'm assuming it is a plain vanilla Gaussian, yes.
 
Hornbein said:
it appears that the increase in the variance of the wave function over time is proportional to (1+t^2)1/2. Is that right?

More or less. You need another constant in there.

http://quantummechanics.ucsd.edu/ph130a/130_notes/node83.html

(the first result in a Google search for "gaussian wave packet spreading")
 
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Hornbein said:
I'm assuming it is a plain vanilla Gaussian, yes.
The exact form involves some more constants as is pointed out by jtbell above.
Not all wavepacket evolves in time that way, the temporal behavior depends on the form of the wavepacket itself and on whether the packet is in free space or not. If the packet propagates in a free-potential space, only the position basis wavepacket evolves - the momentum basis wavefunction remains unchanged. If, on the other hand, there is a varying potential, the wavepacket experiences a "force" and consequently the momentum basis wavefunction will also undergo a change in time in addition to the position wavepacket.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
The exact form involves some more constants as is pointed out by jtbell above.
Not all wavepacket evolves in time that way, the temporal behavior depends on the form of the wavepacket itself and on whether the packet is in free space or not. If the packet propagates in a free-potential space, only the position basis wavepacket evolves - the momentum basis wavefunction remains unchanged. If, on the other hand, there is a varying potential, the wavepacket experiences a "force" and consequently the momentum basis wavefunction will also undergo a change in time in addition to the position wavepacket.

Thanks, that's very helpful for a qualitative understanding.
 

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