Indeterminate problem in geometry

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving the intersection of two circles, C1 and C2, and the subsequent analysis of their intersection points. Participants are exploring the analytical methods to solve for these points and the relationships between the variables involved.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests solving for the intersection of the two circle equations by subtracting one from the other to obtain a linear equation in x.
  • A participant confirms they found the intersection coordinates at Q using the suggested method but struggles with the subtraction of the two equations and seeks further clarification.
  • There is a correction regarding the subtraction process, indicating that the participant initially misunderstood the formulation of the equations.

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The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach to subtracting the equations, with one participant correcting another's interpretation of the process. Uncertainty remains regarding the steps needed to derive a linear equation from the circle equations.

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Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in the problem, particularly in how to correctly manipulate the equations of the circles to find the intersection points.

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Hello,

I came across this question and am wondering if anyone could help me on this...I don't even know where to start... (see attached image)Any help would be greatly appreciated! :biggrin:
 

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It is a somewhat tedious analytic geometry problem.

First locate Q by solving for the intersection of C1 equation and C2 equation - the latter is x^2+y^2=r^2.

By subtracting one equation from the other you will have a linear equation in x, which is readily solvable. This x can be used to obtain y (use plus value). Notice the coordinates of P and Q both depend on r.

Get the equation of the straight line through P and Q and find the x coordinate of the y=0 point on the line. This will also depend on r.

Now let r get arbitrarily small.
 
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Thank you, Mathman, for answering my question. I have done what you suggested by combining the equations of the two circles to find the intersection coordinates at Q.

C1: (x-2)^2 + y^2 = 4
C2: x^2 + y^2 = r^2

It comes out to
x = (r^2)/4

With this I can isolate r or x...either way, I now know the relation between the two variables.

But what I seem to have trouble with is the subtracting of the two equations. Do you mean subtracting C1 from C2's equation?
I find this odd, because it would then look like this:
x^2 + y^2 - 4x - (x^2 - 4x + 4 + y^2 -4) = 0
Then after everything, it just cancels out...so I know I must be plugging the x and r relation into the same equation... could you give me a little more guidance ... ,in detail, about this question?

You say there would then be a linear equation... but ... from where?Please overlook my ignorance.
Thanks!
 
I find this odd, because it would then look like this:
x^2 + y^2 - 4x - (x^2 - 4x + 4 + y^2 -4) = 0
No!

C1-C2 looks like: -4x+4=4-r^2. This gives the equation you used.
 

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