Inelastic Collision of a football tackle

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The discussion revolves around an inelastic collision scenario in an American football game, where a fullback and an opponent collide. The participants explore the nature of the collision, calculations related to the velocities post-collision, and the energy lost during the event.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a perfectly inelastic collision and the implications of the players sticking together. They raise questions about the accuracy of momentum equations and suggest breaking down the problem into components to clarify the calculations.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations for the final velocity and energy loss. Some participants have offered guidance on separating the momentum into components, while others express confusion about the calculations and seek clarification on their correctness.

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Homework Statement


In an American football game, a 90.0-kg fullback running east with a speed of 5.00 m/s is tackled by a 95.0-kg opponent running north with a speed of 3.00 m/s. (a) Explain why the successful tackle constitutes a perfectly inelastic collision. (b) Calculate the velocity of the players immediately after the tackle. (c) Determine the mechanical energy that disappears as a result of the collision. Account for the missing energy.

Homework Equations


m1v1=m1+m2*v2
v2= m1/(m1+m2)*v1

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) Because they are stuck together, it is a perfectly inelastic collision.

(b)Theta= 40degrees = tan-1(3/5)
m1=90.0kg
m2=95.0kg
v1=(5.00i+3.00j)m/s= [tex]\sqrt{5.00^2+3.00^2}[/tex]m/s= 5.83m/s

v2= m1/(m1+m2)*v1
=(90kg/185kg)*5.83 m/s =2.84 m/s
v2x= 2.84*sin40degrees=1.82i
v2y= 2.84*cos40degrees=2.16j
So, the vector for the velocity after impact is (1.82i+2.16j)m/s

(c)w=[tex]\Delta[/tex]K=(1/2)m*[tex]\Delta[/tex]v2
w=(1/2)(m1+m2)(v22-v12)
w=-2.405kJ
This is the heat generated from the collision.

I really worked out the problem, but I don't know if it's correct. Please check it for me. Thanks.
 
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(b)Theta= 40degrees = tan-1(3/5)
m1=90.0kg
m2=95.0kg
v1=(5.00i+3.00j)m/s= LaTeX Code: \\sqrt{5.00^2+3.00^2} m/s= 5.83m/s

This is not correct.
Find the initial momentum of each player and find the resultant momentum of the tackled players.
 
llauren84 said:
In an American football game, a 90.0-kg fullback running east with a speed of 5.00 m/s is tackled by a 95.0-kg opponent running north with a speed of 3.00 m/s. (a) Explain why the successful tackle constitutes a perfectly inelastic collision. (b) Calculate the velocity of the players immediately after the tackle. (c) Determine the mechanical energy that disappears as a result of the collision. Account for the missing energy.

Homework Equations


m1v1=m1+m2*v2
v2= m1/(m1+m2)*v1

Your equations don't accurately reflect the collision. You are dealing with 2 dimensions here. Perhaps if you separate out the components and deal with them independently it will become clearer?

For instance can treat them in x as though one was stationary. And again in y as though the other is stationary, yielding your 2 velocities, and then you can use Pythagoras to determine the resultant from the x,y as you were attempting.
 
So part a and c are correct?
 
llauren84 said:
So part a and c are correct?

A is ok. Perhaps you should correct b to determine whether c is?
 
Right.

So, I googled the Inelastic Collision to get the formulas.
 
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Part B:

m1v1i+m2v2i=(m1+m2)vf
vf=[m1v1i+m2v2i/(m1+m2)
I did the x direction and then the y direction:
vfx=1.56m/s
vfy=1.86m/s
Used pythagorean theroum.
vf=2.43m/s
tan-1(vfy/vfx)=50.0degrees
So, it is 50 degrees from east.

For part C:

w=1/2 m1+m2 (vf2-vi2)
w=(1/2)(185kg)(2.432-5.832)m2/s2
w=-2.60kJ

Is this correct? Do I need to break the work into components too? I am so confused.
 
llauren84 said:
Part B:

m1v1i+m2v2i=(m1+m2)vf
vf=[m1v1i+m2v2i/(m1+m2)
I did the x direction and then the y direction:
vfx=1.56m/s
vfy=1.86m/s
Used pythagorean theroum.
vf=2.43m/s
tan-1(vfy/vfx)=50.0degrees
So, it is 50 degrees from east.

For part C:

w=1/2 m1+m2 (vf2-vi2)
w=(1/2)(185kg)(2.432-5.832)m2/s2
w=-2.60kJ

Is this correct? Do I need to break the work into components too? I am so confused.

You may be confused, but it looks OK.
 
Thanks so much.
 

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