Inelastic collision of equal masses and velocities

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In an inelastic collision involving two equal masses moving with the same initial speed, the final speed of the combined mass is v/5.5. The discussion revolves around using momentum conservation to determine the angle between their initial directions. A visual representation, such as a Y-shape, is suggested to clarify the vector components involved. The calculations initially lead to an incorrect angle, prompting further examination of the conservation principles at play. Ultimately, the participants are working to accurately apply momentum conservation to solve for the angle between the two objects' trajectories.
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After a completely inelastic collision between two objects of equal mass, each having initial speed, v, the two move off with speed v/5.5. What was the angle between their initial directions?

Well, inelastic collision so it looks like I'll be using the momentum equation in here. My professor loves these "ratio-type" problems and I believe that I'll have to use something of the sort on this.

Momentum in = Momentum out
mv + mv = m(v/5.5) + m(v/5.5)

Not sure where to go from there, and I don't see how I will find an angle out of all of this. Anyone have any sugestions as to where I should start?
 
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No,no,conservation of momentum is a typical example of vector relation/equation...

Sides,in the final state,there's only one particle...:wink:

Daniel.
 
Fanman22,

Have you tried drawing a picture showing the particles and their directions of travel before and after the collision? If not, it might help.
 
Yeah,you'd see an isosceles triangle there.It would help you with the projection of the vector equation on some nicely chosen axis of coordinates.

Daniel.
 
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Is that even remotely correct? I'm not sure the isosceles triangle idea makes sense to me. I don't understand how it represents the motion of the 2 particles before the collision and how it represents the velocity of the total mass afterwards.
 
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Nope.It should have been more like an Y.Actually exactly like an Y...

Daniel.
 
I can see the "Y-shape" now...What I did was take the components (in the direction of the final velocity) of each V. So...

Vsin(theta) + Vsin(theta) = (v/5.5) = 2Vsin(theta)
Theta = 5.216

To find the angle between the particles...
180 - 5.216 - 5.216 = the middle angle = 169.6

But of course, I got it wrong again

Where did I go wrong?
 
Fanman,

You almost have it. But what does your equation:

Vsin(theta) + Vsin(theta) = (v/5.5)

say is conserved? What's really conserved?
 
yes what jdavel said
Edit* didn't look too closely myself
 
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