Infinite domain to finite plate by a change of variables

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The discussion focuses on the mathematical transformation of the steady-state heat diffusion problem from an infinite domain to a finite plate using the change of variables \(d - y\). The solution is expressed as a series involving sine functions and hyperbolic functions, specifically \(\sinh\) and \(\cosh\). The participants explore the implications of taking the limit as \(d\) approaches infinity, ultimately questioning the validity of the boundary conditions and the representation of the solution. The conclusion emphasizes the necessity of separating the coefficients for the hyperbolic functions to accurately reflect the boundary conditions.

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Consider the following solution to the steady state heat diffusion problem on an infinite y domain.
\[
T(x, y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\exp\left(-\frac{\pi n}{\ell} y\right)
\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)
\]
How does one obtain the results of finite plate by making the change of variables \(d - y\) for \(y\) and considering the linit as \(d\to\infty\)?

Making that sub we have \(\exp(-\lambda_nd)\exp(\lambda_ny)\). If we take the limit as d goes to inifinity, we get 0. Therefore, \(T(x,y) = 0\). This doesn't seem correct.
 
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Consider \(\exp(d-y) = \sinh(d-y) + \cosh(d-y)\).

Then \(\exp\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) = \sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\).
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
General the solution to the Laplace on a rectangle will only have sinh or cosh, but if it has both, they should have their own Fourier coefficients. I don't see away to re-write this any further though. I still don't understand the \(d\to\infty\) part.

If we break \(T\) up, we have
\[
T_1 = T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)
\]
which implies a boundary condition of \(T(x, d) = f(x)\), and
\[
T_2 = T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)
\]
which implies a boundary condition of \(T'(x, d) = g(x)\).
Is there more to say about \(T\)?

If \(d\to\infty\), we are back to the infinite domain problem.
 
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dwsmith said:
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
Should this have be written automatically as
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[A_n\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + B_n\cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
instead?

This would then make more since for the boundary conditions. We would have the first equal to say \(f(x)\) and the second would be the derivative equal to \(g(x)\).
 
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