Infinite potential well with delta well

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving an infinite potential well with a delta function potential at the center. Participants are tasked with finding the eigenfunctions, energy levels, and determining the nature of the spectrum for a particle constrained in a one-dimensional space defined by the potential.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of translating the coordinate system and whether it affects the symmetry of the eigenfunctions. There are attempts to derive conditions based on boundary values and normalization, as well as considerations of different cases for the wavefunctions.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various approaches being suggested. Some participants have provided guidance on how to handle the boundary conditions and the implications of the delta function. Multiple interpretations of the setup are being considered, particularly regarding the symmetry and the treatment of eigenfunctions.

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Participants note that the original problem is symmetric, which may influence the choice of eigenfunctions. There is also a discussion about the necessity of considering both positive and negative energy states, as well as the normalization conditions that may not be relevant for finding the spectrum.

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I Have tried to solve a problem about infinite potential well with a delta well in the middle, but I haven't the results and so I can't check if the proceeding is wrong...

We have a particle in 1D that can moves only on ##[-a.a]## because of the potential ##V(x)=\begin{cases}-\lambda \delta (x), x\in(-a,a)\\ \infty, otherwise\end{cases}##
(##\lambda>0)##

I have to find the autofunctions, the expression of energy levels and say if the sprectrum is limited

My attempt solution:

The Schroedinger's Equation is:

##\psi''(x)=\frac{2m}{\hbar^2} (V(x)-E) \psi (x)##
so we have: ##\psi''(x)=-\frac{2m}{\hbar^2} E \psi (x)##
I have assumed ##E>0##

Then I have translated the axis origin, and the segment [-a, a] now is [0,2a]

We have two wavefunctions:

##\psi_-=A\sin kx +B\cos kx## for ##0<x<a##
##\psi_+=C\sin kx +D\cos kx## for ##a<x<2a##

Conditions:

- from ##\psi_- (0)=0 \rightarrow B=0##
- from##\psi_+ (2a) = 0 \rightarrow \tan(2ka)=-D/C##
- from ##\psi_- (a) = \psi_+ (a) \rightarrow \tan(ka)=\frac{D}{A-C}##
- from normalization ##A^2=C^2+D^2=1##
- from ##\psi_+' (a)=\psi'_- (a)-\frac{2mg}{\hbar^2}\psi(a) \rightarrow kC \cos(ka) - Dk \sin(ka)= Ak \cos(ka)-\frac{2mg}{\hbar^2}A\sin(ka)##

I've tried substituting in the last relation the previous relations but I couldn't get to the result...
 
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I suggest that you do not make the translation to the interval [0,2a]. The original problem is symmetric around x=0 and therefore has eigenfunctions which are either symmetric or anti-symmetric.
 
I have done the translation because my texbook, dealing with the infinite well, explicitly says "In order to avoid different steps for odd and even eigenfunctions, we choose the coordinates origin in one of the extreme points of the segment" and so does in the next steps.. So I have thought to do the same thing... But maybe I can't to do it because of the delta function? Do I have to consider even and odd solution because of the delta?
 
You can do it with the shifted interval.

Your normalization condition is wrong. And it won't be needed in any case, it doesn't help you find the spectrum.

Your assumption E>0 is not necessarily correct. You should consider E>0 and E<0 separately.

You should consider the cases ##\psi(a)=0## and ##\psi(a)\ne 0## separately.

Then, your goal is to eliminate ##A, B, C, D## and get an equation involving ##ka## only. The equation you get does not necessarily have an analytic solution, and then needs to be studied graphically. (If you've seen the finite square-well problem, you have probably seen this technique.)
 
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bznm said:
I have done the translation because my texbook, dealing with the infinite well, explicitly says "In order to avoid different steps for odd and even eigenfunctions, we choose the coordinates origin in one of the extreme points of the segment" and so does in the next steps.. So I have thought to do the same thing... But maybe I can't to do it because of the delta function? Do I have to consider even and odd solution because of the delta?
You can do it either way, but given the symmetry of the problem, I'd stick with the original interval.

One trick to make the math a bit simpler is to use wave functions of the form ##\psi_+ = A \sin k(x+a)## and ##\psi_+ = B \sin k(x-a)##. These automatically satisfy the boundary conditions at ##x = \pm a##.
 
You should consider the cases ψ(a)=0 and ψ(a)≠0 separately.

if ##\psi(a)=0##, ##k=\frac{n \pi}{a}## (and so I obtain the spectrum.. right?)

if ##\psi(a) \neq 0##, ##tg ka=\frac{D}{A-C}##...

but I can't find the equation that involves only ##ka##.. can you help me?
 
One trick to make the math a bit simpler is to use wave functions of the form ψ+=Asink(x+a) and ψ+=Bsink(x−a). These automatically satisfy the boundary conditions at x=±a.

And what about the condition on energy levels?
 
What equations do the other two conditions at x=0 give you (for the unshifted well)?
 
bznm said:
if ##\psi(a)=0##, ##k=\frac{n \pi}{a}## (and so I obtain the spectrum.. right?)
Yes. In the original unshifted interval, these are the eigenvalues corresponding to the odd-parity eigenfunctions. These are the same as in the box without the delta function. This is because these eigenfunctions vanish at the delta function, and so are unaffected by the delta function.

bznm said:
if ##\psi(a) \neq 0##, ##tg ka=\frac{D}{A-C}##...

but I can't find the equation that involves only ##ka##.. can you help me?

You already have
bznm said:
- from ##\psi_+ (2a) = 0 \rightarrow \tan(2ka)=-D/C##
- from ##\psi_- (a) = \psi_+ (a) \rightarrow \tan(ka)=\frac{D}{A-C}##
...
- from ##\psi_+' (a)=\psi'_- (a)-\frac{2mg}{\hbar^2}\psi(a) \rightarrow kC \cos(ka) - Dk \sin(ka)= Ak \cos(ka)-\frac{2mg}{\hbar^2}A\sin(ka)##
Use the first equation to express ##D## in terms of ##C##. Plug this into the second equation. Use it to solve for ##A## in terms of ##C##. Plug your expressions for ##D## and ##A## into the third equation. Cancel out common factors of ##C##. Simplify as much as possible.
 
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A lot of thanks!
 

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