Infinite wire -- Magnetic field from a current in a long L-shaped wire

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic field at specific points due to a long L-shaped wire carrying current, which changes direction by 90 degrees. The context is rooted in electromagnetism, particularly focusing on the application of the Biot-Savart law and Ampere's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the possibility of treating the wire segments as semi-infinite wires and express concerns about the applicability of Ampere's law and the Biot-Savart law in this context. There is uncertainty regarding how to properly account for the entire wire segment when calculating the magnetic field.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including the use of Biot-Savart law for semi-infinite wires. Guidance has been offered regarding the integration process, suggesting that it may not be necessary to divide the segments into separate integrals.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty about the handling of semi-infinite segments in the context of the Biot-Savart law, as well as the implications of using Ampere's law in this scenario. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made about the wire's configuration and the distances involved.

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Homework Statement


A long wire with a current changes direction by 90 degrees. Calculate the magnetic field at the point at a perpendicular distance of S from the wire before it changed direction and a distance of T from the segment of the wire after it changed direction.

Homework Equations


I suspect Biot-Savart or perhaps Ampere's law.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought about separating the two perpendicular wire segments to manage them as separate semi infinite wires. But by doing that I encounter some problems. Using Amperes law and basically halving the field of a true infinite wire I don't take into account the whole wire segment. Doing it that way only works if the semi infinite segment extends from a perpendicular line connected to the point we measure, right?
 
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Hubbles said:
Doing it that way only works if the semi infinite segment extends from a perpendicular line connected to the point we measure, right?
Yes.
 
Could you treat it as two half infinite wires with Biot-Savart and add two finite segments on top of that? Or just two semi infinites from the correct distance. But then again I'm not sure how well Biot-Savart handles semi infinites.
 
Hubbles said:
Could you treat it as two half infinite wires with Biot-Savart and add two finite segments on top of that? Or just two semi infinites from the correct distance. But then again I'm not sure how well Biot-Savart handles semi infinites.
You write as though Biot-Savart only applies to (half) infinite wires. It is a quite general integral.
There is no benefit in dividing each straight segment into two separate integrals. Just do one integral for each straight segment. It is not difficult.
 

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