Inner and Outer Radius of a Sphere

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The discussion revolves around a hollow sphere characterized by an inner radius (x) and an outer radius (y), with a uniform charge of 5 C distributed throughout. Participants are exploring the concepts of charge density and the charge enclosed within a Gaussian sphere that lies between the inner and outer radii.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss calculating charge density by dividing the total charge by the volume of the hollow sphere. There is uncertainty regarding whether the charge is distributed throughout the hollow part or only on the edges. Some participants suggest calculating the volume of the spherical shell by subtracting the volume of the inner sphere from the outer sphere.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants attempting to clarify the volume calculations and the implications for the Gaussian sphere. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to define the radius of the Gaussian sphere as r, where x < r < y, rather than using y as its radius.

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Participants note the potential confusion in the problem wording and the implications of the hollow nature of the sphere on charge distribution. There is a recognition that the Gaussian sphere must have a radius less than y, prompting further discussion on the appropriate calculations.

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Homework Statement


A sphere, which is hollow, has an inner radius (denoted x) and an outer radius (denoted y).

The sphere does not conduct.

It has a charge of 5 C distributed uniformly throughout it.

1) What is the charge density by volume in the body of the hollow sphere?

2) How much charge is enclosed in a gaussian sphere of radius x < r < y?


Homework Equations


(4/3)(pi)(r3) is the volume of a sphere with radius r.


The Attempt at a Solution



I know you divide the charge by the volume of the sphere. Since the sphere is hollow, can you assume that the 5 C of charge are distributed in the hollow part too, or only on the edge?

My instinct is to calculate the volume using radius y, but I'm not sure.
 
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jumbogala said:

Homework Statement


A sphere, which is hollow, has an inner radius (denoted x) and an outer radius (denoted y).

The sphere does not conduct.

It has a charge of 5 C distributed uniformly throughout it.

1) What is the charge density by volume in the body of the hollow sphere?

2) How much charge is enclosed in a gaussian sphere of radius x < r < y?


Homework Equations


(4/3)(pi)(r3) is the volume of a sphere with radius r.


The Attempt at a Solution



I know you divide the charge by the volume of the sphere. Since the sphere is hollow, can you assume that the 5 C of charge are distributed in the hollow part too, or only on the edge?

My instinct is to calculate the volume using radius y, but I'm not sure.

The wording of this problem is a trifle confusing. Here is what I think: You have a spherical shell of inner radius x and outer radius y. The sphere is empty for r < x. The charge is uniformly distributed throughout the material that makes up the spherical shell. You can figure the volume of the shell by subtracting the volume of the empty interior portion from the volume of the whole sphere (i.e. use r = y in the volume formula) From that you can get an expression for the charge density (Charge/Volume). I see you don't have to calculate E, but just need the charge enclosed in a Gaussian sphere inside the shell. So calculate the volume of material enclosed in the Gaussian sphere the same way as you calculated the volume of the spherical shell, it's just that now your outer radius is the radius of your Gaussian sphere. Multiply that by the charge density and you're done. Don't be alarmed if the final answer is messy.
 
Okay, I think I understand what you mean.

Volume of the empty part of the sphere:
(4/3)(pi)(x^3)

Volume of the entire sphere:
(4/3)(pi)(y^3)

Subract entire sphere from empty part...
(4/3)(pi)(y^3) - (4/3)(pi)(x^3) = volume of the shell only

Divide 5 by volume of shell only, to get charge density.

At this point I get a bit confused. I understand that I need to find the volume of the Gaussian sphere, then multiply by charge density. But the Gaussian sphere has to have a radius that is less than y, so why does y become the radius of the Gaussian sphere?
 
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jumbogala said:
Okay, I think I understand what you mean.

Volume of the empty part of the sphere:
(4/3)(pi)(x^3)

Volume of the entire sphere:
(4/3)(pi)(y^3)

Subract entire sphere from empty part...
(4/3)(pi)(y^3) - (4/3)(pi)(x^3) = volume of the shell only

Divide 5 by volume of shell only, to get charge density.

At this point I get a bit confused. I understand that I need to find the volume of the Gaussian sphere, then multiply by charge density. But the Gaussian sphere has to have a radius that is less than y, so why does y become the radius of the Gaussian sphere?

Somewhere we mis-communicated. Your are right, the radius of the Gaussian sphere is NOT y. Call it r where x< r < y.
 

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