Inner product in n-dimensional vector space

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The discussion revolves around proving an equivalence involving the inner product of vectors in a complex n-dimensional vector space. Participants explore the expression for the inner product in terms of the norms of vector sums and differences, specifically focusing on the equation: inner product of a and b equals 1/4[|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2].

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to express |a+b|^2 in terms of the inner product.
  • Another participant suggests using the definition of the norm as |x|^2 = ⟨x, x⟩ and encourages the use of inner product axioms to continue the derivation.
  • A participant provides a detailed breakdown of inner product properties, showing relationships involving ⟨a, a+b⟩ and ⟨a, a-b⟩.
  • One participant presents their calculations but questions where they might have made a mistake in their derivation of the inner product expression.
  • A later reply indicates that the original claim to prove may be incorrect, stating that the correct polarization identity for complex inner product spaces involves additional terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the original statement to be proven. There is disagreement regarding the validity of the proposed equivalence and the correct form of the polarization identity in complex inner product spaces.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' calculations depend on the properties of inner products in complex spaces, and there are unresolved steps in the derivation that may affect the conclusions drawn.

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So, I have an equivalence I need to prove, but I think I'm having trouble understanding the problem at a basic level.

The problem is to prove that the inner product of a and b equals 1/4[|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2] (a, b in C^n or an n-dimensional vector space with complex elements).

I don't understand how to write out |a+b|^2 in other terms. If anyone has any guidance here, that would be awesome. :-/
 
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gucci said:
So, I have an equivalence I need to prove, but I think I'm having trouble understanding the problem at a basic level.

The problem is to prove that the inner product of a and b equals 1/4[|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2] (a, b in C^n or an n-dimensional vector space with complex elements).

I don't understand how to write out |a+b|^2 in other terms. If anyone has any guidance here, that would be awesome. :-/

Welcome to MHB, gucci! :)

By definition the norm is given by $|x|^2 = \langle x, x \rangle$.

So:
$$|a+b|^2 = \langle a+b, a+b \rangle = \langle a, a+b \rangle + \langle b, a+b \rangle = ...$$

Can you continue using the axioms of an inner product?
 
Since you are working with a complex inner product, it might be helpful to know that:

[math]\langle a,a+b \rangle = \overline{\langle a+b,a \rangle} = \overline{\langle a,a \rangle + \langle b,a \rangle}= \overline{\langle a,a\rangle} + \overline{\langle b,a\rangle} = \langle a,a\rangle + \langle a,b\rangle[/math]

and that:

[math]\langle a,a-b\rangle = \langle a,a+(-b)\rangle = \langle a,a\rangle + \langle a,-b\rangle = \langle a,a\rangle + (\overline{-1})\langle a,b\rangle = \langle a,a\rangle - \langle a,b\rangle[/math]
 
So, with your help I am much closer to the answer, but I'm making a mistake somewhere I guess. This is what I'm coming up with:

1/4 [|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2] = 1/4 [⟨a+b,a+b⟩ - ⟨a+(-1)b,a+(-1)b⟩]
= 1/4 [⟨a,a+b⟩ + ⟨b,a+b⟩ - ⟨a,a+(-1)b⟩ + ⟨b,a+(-1)b⟩]
= 1/4 [⟨a,a⟩ + ⟨a,b⟩ + ⟨b,a⟩ + ⟨b,b⟩ - ⟨a,a⟩ + ⟨a,b⟩ + ⟨b,a⟩ - ⟨b,b⟩]
= 1/4 [2⟨a,b⟩ + 2⟨b,a⟩]

Can anyone spot where I slipped up? Thanks for all your help
 
gucci said:
So, with your help I am much closer to the answer, but I'm making a mistake somewhere I guess. This is what I'm coming up with:

1/4 [|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2] = 1/4 [⟨a+b,a+b⟩ - ⟨a+(-1)b,a+(-1)b⟩]
= 1/4 [⟨a,a+b⟩ + ⟨b,a+b⟩ - ⟨a,a+(-1)b⟩ + ⟨b,a+(-1)b⟩]
= 1/4 [⟨a,a⟩ + ⟨a,b⟩ + ⟨b,a⟩ + ⟨b,b⟩ - ⟨a,a⟩ + ⟨a,b⟩ + ⟨b,a⟩ - ⟨b,b⟩]
= 1/4 [2⟨a,b⟩ + 2⟨b,a⟩]

Can anyone spot where I slipped up? Thanks for all your help

I don't think you have made a mistake, in a complex inner-product space what you have is:

[math]\frac{1}{4}(2\langle a,b\rangle + 2\langle b,a\rangle) = \frac{1}{2}(\langle a,b\rangle + \overline{\langle a,b\rangle}) = \mathfrak{Re}(\langle a,b\rangle)[/math]

What you are being asked to PROVE is incorrect, in a complex inner product space the polarization identity is actually:

[math]\langle a,b\rangle = \frac{|a+b|^2 - |a-b|^2 + i|a+ib|^2 - i|a-ib|^2}{4}[/math]
 
Thank you so much! I love this forum, everyone here is so helpful :D
 

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