Insect eggs or droppings of some kind?

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The discussion revolves around the identification of strange grey balls found on a terrace, with participants speculating whether they are insect eggs, cocoons, or droppings. The conversation includes various hypotheses and personal experiences related to entomology and the nature of these objects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the objects as smooth, grey balls, comparing their size to a rolled-up pillbug.
  • Some participants suggest cracking one open to investigate further, while others express fear about what might be inside.
  • A participant identifies a ladybug larva but notes that its eggs and cocoons do not resemble the found objects.
  • There is speculation that the objects could contain thousands of tiny spiders or ticks, with one participant expressing concern about the potential for ticks to be involved.
  • Another participant compares the objects to horticultural perlite or vermiculite, questioning if a plant container was recently disturbed.
  • One participant suggests using tweezers and a microscope to examine the objects more closely.
  • There is a mention of wolf spider egg sacs, with some participants debating the likelihood of the objects being spider-related.
  • Several humorous suggestions are made regarding the use of various tools to dissect the objects, including scalpels and scissors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions and hypotheses about the nature of the grey balls, with no consensus reached on their identification. Multiple competing views remain regarding whether they are insect eggs, cocoons, or something else entirely.

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Participants acknowledge uncertainty about the objects' origins and contents, and there are references to various assumptions about their appearance and potential connections to insects.

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Insect eggs, cocoons, or droppings of some kind?

All over my terrace I am finding strange grey balls, does anyone have a clue what they could be? They're about the size of a rolled up pillbug, smooth surface with a matt gloss.

I've never seen them before, maybe some nice bug is inside or 1000s of tiny spiders could emerge from them... kind of creepy.
 

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I don't dare, who knows what's inside

I did manage to identify a strange bug as a ladybug larve, but unfortunately their eggs and cocoons don't look like the ones I found.
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Crack one open :)
Remember to have an insect spray before attempting :wink:
Monique said:
I don't dare, who knows what's inside
Crush them!
 
adjacent said:
Crush them!
That'd be cruel, and they're hiding everywhere. Some more:
 

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Monique said:
I don't dare, who knows what's inside

haha are you not a biologist!?
 
Light? Heavy? Hard? Soft? Styrofoam?
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
haha are you not a biologist!?
Not a real one, but I dissect fruit fly larvae and brains like a pro :-p

Borek said:
Light? Heavy? Hard? Soft? Styrofoam?
Gee Borek, these things creep me out and surely I don't dare to touch them. Definitely not styrofoam though.

russ_watters said:
I'm going with thousands of tiny spiders.
That's what I'm afraid of. That, or ticks are using my terrace to store their blood-filled sacks for later use.

I've put two of these mystery objects underneath a glass, let's see what happens..
 
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russ_watters said:
I'm going with thousands of tiny spiders.

Could be, but I've never seem spider egg cocoons scattered around on the ground. They usually attach them to somewhere that will be dry and sunny.

They look a bit like horticultural perlite or vermiculite. Has somebody knocked over a plant container on the terrace recently?
 
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Monique said:
Gee Borek, these things creep me out and surely I don't dare to touch them. Definitely not styrofoam though.
Get tweezers and a microscope.
 
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omg omg omg, it looks like wolf spider egg sacks

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AlephZero, perlite crossed my mind, but then I should've recognized it. The perlite I know is white and irregularly shaped, not smooth grey. Also the fact that those things look so clean makes me think they are fresh, rather than coming from the ground. In the second picture you clearly see they are on top of the organic material.
 
  • #14
Can't you just tear one apart of the with pincers, scissors, needle, whatever?

First time I hear about a biologist with greyballphobia :-p
 
  • #15
Hahaha, I would get a small scalpel and a microscope, or magnifying glass, and just carefully make an incision. People do this with reptiles all the time when breeding. It will most likely be very fiddly at first but just try digging around with that scalpel! You should eventually be able to see what it contains, hence the microscope. Try and identify it from there if it is fully formed and, if so, what it is. How long have they been there? If you think they have been there a while it should be fine.
 
  • #16
Wolf spiders care for their egg sacs and will carry them around until they hatch, and even then the mother usually carries the babie spiders around on her back - so I highly doubt it's spider sacs.

Just wear some gloves and cut one open in a dish so there's no mess/escape - they probably are from plants more likely than anything.
 
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*does funny paralyzing moves then faints*
 
  • #18
"Insect eggs or droppings of some sort"? That was the lunch special in my school's cafeteria today! What re the odds?
 

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